Dear PDWG,<br><br>Le mercredi 5 janvier 2022, Mathanya Ramaboea <<a href="mailto:mathanyawork@gmail.com">mathanyawork@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0cm"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span lang="SV" style="color:black">Dear PDWG,</span><span lang="SV"></span></font></p><p style="margin:0cm"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span lang="SV" style="color:black"><br></span></font></p><p style="margin:0cm"><span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span lang="SV" style="color:black"><br>
</span><span lang="SV"></span></font></span></p><p style="margin:0cm"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span lang="SV" style="color:black">The
proposal lacks details that are no good to be left up to interpretation. These
are my concerns and what I think should be added or worked on to not make the
policy a redundancy (which is now the case)</span></span><span lang="SV"></span></font></p><p style="margin:0cm"><span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="color:black"><font face="arial, sans-serif"> </font></span></span></p><p style="margin:0cm"><br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your email, Mathanya.</div><div> </div><div>Please fill free to amend the text, brother.</div><div>...by the way, could you, please, clarify your point? </div><div>It seems to be too wide, imho :-/</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0cm"><span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="color:black"></span></span></p><p style="margin:0cm"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="color:black">A- 3.Notifications : Enforcing the policy still has no guarantee
on how you would make sure that the members check the dashboard. A large
majority of AFRINIC resource members don’t even stay up to date with
the latest policy developments. And what if they just choose to ignore the
dashboard and then claim that they haven’t checked it since nothing obliges
them to..?</span><span lang="SV"></span></font></p><p style="margin:0cm"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="color:black"><br></span></font></p><p style="margin:0cm"><font face="arial, sans-serif"></font></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You should remember the goal: it's about offering to resource members a free mean to check/monitor dear CPM-compliance with less effort...it's a free to use tool...but if one is not compliant, and refuses to use the tool provided to ease every resource holder's ability to know when not compliant...how can you solve that problem through the PDWG?</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0cm"><font face="arial, sans-serif"></font></p><p style="margin:0cm"><span style="color:black"><font face="arial, sans-serif">B- 4.Lack of compliance : Why does AFRINIC even need this policy to exist to conduct<i> </i>exhaustive investigations and further
actions when a member is not complying ? This section is one of the most important points of the
policy that needs to justify the need of it, and it is lacking explanatory details that
are crucial to understand what value exactly is added by the dashboard.
Especially if AFRINIC is already doing the same job..</font></span></p><p style="margin:0cm"><span style="color:black"></span></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>...it's a particularly operational DPP, do you really </div><div>want it to become a micro-management tool?</div><div> </div><div>Maybe the Staff could help, if more clarification is</div><div> needed.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Shalom,</div><div>--sb.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0cm"><span style="color:black"></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt"><span style="color:black"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
<span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"></span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"></span></font></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt"><span style="color:black"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></span></p><p style="margin:0cm"><span style="color:black"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Regards,</font></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt"><font face="arial, sans-serif"> </font></p><p style="margin:0cm">
</p><p style="margin:0cm"><span style="color:black"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Mathanya</font></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></p></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 at 20:48, Sylvain Baya <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" target="_blank">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Dear PDWG,</div><div dir="auto">Hope this email finds you in good health,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Blessed new year 2022! </div><div dir="auto">...one year less under the ongoing era of The Lord's</div><div dir="auto"> Grace!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 20 déc. 2021 14:21, Serah Eazy <<a href="mailto:seraheazy@gmail.com" target="_blank">seraheazy@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Good day,<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">My reservation against this proposal is that</div><div dir="auto"></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hi Serah,</div><div dir="auto">Thanks for sharing your concern, brother!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">the dashboard may pose some problems because the technical side of things may be mishandled and may cause data breach.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is not any new at all!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Data breach is an event no organization</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"> wants to experience. </div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...sure, but you may know it, everyday a</div><div dir="auto"> number of organizations are disclosing</div><div dir="auto"> data breaches and other cyber-attacks...</div><div dir="auto">and they are not specifically managing </div><div dir="auto">such kind of dashboards.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">What level of assurance can be given to members that their Information will not be compromised. </div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Do you know, that what you are describing</div><div dir="auto"> above is also relevant to MyAFRINIC [1]?</div><div dir="auto">__</div><div dir="auto">[1]: <<a href="https://my.afrinic.net" target="_blank">https://my.afrinic.net</a>></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Human error, insider misuse of information, physical theft of data carrying devices are likely issues that may arise from the implementation of the dashboard and whose outcomes could be disastrous.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...as said above, Serah, this is not at all </div><div dir="auto">specific to the proposed dashboard. As </div><div dir="auto">you wisely said: such issues (errors/theft/</div><div dir="auto">whatever) are likely to occur ; no matter </div><div dir="auto">the SLA/OLA of a given organization. Hence, </div><div dir="auto">we should start by agreeing that nothing</div><div dir="auto"> in what you mention here is specific to </div><div dir="auto">the proposed dashboard; and therefore, </div><div dir="auto">those issues could not be considered as</div><div dir="auto"> relevants and even specific to the proposed </div><div dir="auto">dashboard...the same risks are actually </div><div dir="auto">experienced within the MyAFRINIC </div><div dir="auto">plateform, which works however while </div><div dir="auto">being regularly improved...also, note that the </div><div dir="auto">proposed dashboard shall be integrated</div><div dir="auto"> within the MyAFRINIC plateform, in order</div><div dir="auto"> to be accessible only to each resource member.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Serah, you should focus on the potential in</div><div dir="auto"> usefulness of the proposed dashboard.</div><div dir="auto"> If implemented, imho, it'll be of great </div><div dir="auto">interest for each resource member, in that</div><div dir="auto"> it'll help them to, effortlessly, track their </div><div dir="auto">own compliance with the CPM. Remember</div><div dir="auto"> that each resource member is bound by the </div><div dir="auto">CPM, but some are facing difficulties to track </div><div dir="auto">their own CPM-compliance. The CPM-compliance </div><div dir="auto">dashboard comes to clean these difficulties...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...for me, i was more concerned about the </div><div dir="auto">necessity of a policy to address these concerns</div><div dir="auto"> in implementing such a operational solution</div><div dir="auto">...but, i'm ok to have it through an operational</div><div dir="auto"> policy; if it's the only mean this PDWG can </div><div dir="auto">afford...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Blessings!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Shalom,</div><div dir="auto">--sb.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Thank you.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Oluwabunmi</div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 4:25 PM PDWG Chair <<a href="mailto:vincent@ngundi.me.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">vincent@ngundi.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The summary of the elements that led to the PDWG Chairs decision for the policy proposal Policy Compliance Dashboard AFPUB-2021-GEN-003-DRAFT02 that was discussed during the AFRINIC-34 Public Policy Meeting is as follows :-</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The concerns on the mailing list were addressed. During the open microphone discussion of the proposal, the PDWG expressed support of the intention of the policy, while also mentioning that policy should not be used to micromanage work done by staff and cautioning against the scope creep of the PDP.</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The privacy issue that was raised was addressed as the dashboard is visible only to the member. </span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">After consideration of the mailing list discussions and during the current Public Policy Meeting, the decision of PDWG Co-chairs is that this policy proposal has reached rough consensus. The policy proposal therefore moves to Last Call and the community can further comment in that period. The Last Call starts on 8 December 2021 and will end at 23h59 UTC on 5 January 2022.</span></p>
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