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<p>I am at this point utterly flabbergasted that response to simple
questions will require a webinar. I thought direct answers would
have been given to the questions first. Subsequently, if there are
clarifications to be made, a webinar opportunity could be utilize
to further give light to grey areas that have not been clear by
the earlier response to the questions.</p>
<p>But, to plan to use a webinar to handle such situations, creates
an atmosphere of suspicion. We can do well if we do not give such
impressions.</p>
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<p>Simply,</p>
<p>Daniel<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/08/2021 11:11 pm, Owen DeLong via
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How about just providing simple text answers to the questions? I
don’t think webinars are necessary. I think that the questions
need to be addressed and that there is really no difficulty to do
so in text.
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class="">On 3 Aug 2021, at 13:33, Paul Wollner <<a
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Dear AFRINIC,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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<br class="">
It has been just over a month now since the mail below
was sent and I feel that we still do not have any direct
answer on the 4 questions that were raised.<br class="">
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Can we please get a clearcut answer from AFRINIC on
these questions?<br class="">
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Paul Wollner<br class="">
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---- On Fri, 02 Jul 2021 14:24:05 +0200 Paul Wollner
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wrote ----<br class="">
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Mr. Kayihura,<br class="">
<br class="">
I refer to your email dated 30 June 2021.<br class="">
<br class="">
In it, you claim that Questions 1 to 3 were addressed
during the open mic session held on 4 June 2021.<br
class="">
<br class="">
The reality is that none of those questions were
satisfactorily answered. They were addressed to the
extent that the questions were acknowledged, then an
attempt was made to obfuscate them and answer different
questions while pretending to answer the questions
asked, then a claim was made that the questions would be
answered at a later date.<br class="">
<br class="">
In reality, no such answer has been forthcoming from
AFRINIC. We recognize that these questions are likely
inconvenient and come at what is almost certainly an
inopportune time to be asking. Nonetheless, these are
valid questions and as a resource member, we feel that
we are being held at unfair disadvantage if AFRINIC will
not provide a clear and direct answer to each of the
questions about how it interprets policies in these
areas.<br class="">
<br class="">
There’s too much at stake to allow AFRINIC staff to
simply make it up as they go a long. We need a public
commitment to the official interpretation of these areas
of potential ambiguity in the current policy regime.<br
class="">
<br class="">
As to the fourth item, while it is not our intent to
micro-manage AFRINIC staff decisions, it is our
conclusion that even if Madhvi did not actively
participate in the fraudulent resource registrations and
embezzlement, she surely must have either turned a blind
eye (aiding and abetting) or she failed to notice it
which at best displays a level of incompetence and
failure to meet her duty of care in such a position.<br
class="">
<br class="">
In summary, we renew our request for factual, reliable,
direct answers to each of the queries and request that
AFRINIC eschew further obfuscation and sophistry in the
process.<br class="">
<br class="">
Thank you.<br class="">
<br class="">
Paul Wollner<br class="">
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---- On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 13:04:19 +0200 Eddy Kayihura
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Mr Wollner,<br class="">
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I refer to your email dated 24 June 2021.<br class="">
<br class="">
Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the open mic
session held on 4 June 2021 and we undertook an action
to organise a webinar within 2 months to discuss with
the community the definition of “need-based” in the
AFRINIC policies and bylaws.<br class="">
<br class="">
We are delighted to see that the discussion amongst the
community has already started.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Regarding question 4, we cannot penalise a staff member
unless we find concrete proof of their involvement in
the misappropriation of the IP resources. As of now, we
do not have such evidence on any of AFRINIC’s current
staff members.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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The appropriate channel for such inquiry or complaint is
to submit it via our Whistleblowing platform.<span
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<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
<br class="">
Eddy Kayihura<br class="">
<br class="">
Chief Executive Officer,<br class="">
African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)<br class="">
…………………………………………………….<br class="">
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<br class="">
M. Wollner,<br class="">
<br class="">
Je me réfère à votre courriel du 24 juin 2021.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Les questions 1 à 3 ont été abordées lors de la session
'open mic' qui s'est tenue le 4 juin 2021 et nous avons
entrepris une action visant à organiser un webinaire
dans un délai de 2 mois afin de discuter avec la
communauté de la définition de "need-based" dans les
politiques et les statuts d'AFRINIC.<br class="">
<br class="">
Nous sommes ravis de voir que la discussion au sein de
la communauté a déjà commencé.<br class="">
<br class="">
En ce qui concerne la question 4, nous ne pouvons pas
pénaliser un membre du personnel à moins de trouver des
preuves concrètes de son implication dans la
manipulation non autorisée des ressources IP. A ce jour,
nous n'avons pas de telles preuves sur aucun des membres
actuels du personnel d'AFRINIC.<br class="">
<br class="">
Le canal approprié pour une telle requête ou plainte est
de la soumettre via notre plateforme de whistleblowing.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Cordialement,<br class="">
Eddy Kayihura<br class="">
Directeur général,<br class="">
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