<div dir="auto"><div>{add a volunteer; as in Cc:}</div><div>Dear PDWG,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le sam. 31 juil. 2021 à 11:48 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Sylvain,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">Hi Jordi,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for you kick reaction, brother :-)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">(subject changed and moved to RPD and we should follow the discussion there and not copy community, as it belongs to there)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...'community-discuss' removed!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I don’t think is so easy.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Being easy shouldn't be the only motivator :-/</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">It is very normal, even in open organizations, to keep confidentiality in many documents. It could be even ruled as illegal if you don’t accept that in the CPM, if we ground the CPM under Mauritius law, which is an open question. However, the CPM implementation is done by the AFRINIC as a Mauritius legally constituted organization …<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...i agree, brother, this question could be </div><div dir="auto">left to the Legal Team, through the IAR </div><div dir="auto">(Impact Analysis Report)...it is also an </div><div dir="auto">obligation to provide such information </div><div dir="auto">to the PDWG; at least as states in CPM </div><div dir="auto">section 3.4.0:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">~°~</div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:13px">[...] AFRINIC shall also provide relevant facts and statistics </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:13px">if requested during the discussion.</span><br></div><div dir="auto">~°~</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Remember that a justification for a resource request, can provide insights of a business plan and then you’re opening your business to your competitors.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">...notwithstanding it, is appears that </div><div dir="auto">there is actually a real problem to solve.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">So the point is if we can draft something in the line of:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for this draft...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">***<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">(new section 3.3.4 “Publication of Information”)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">IPv4 resources are scarce and close to exhaustion. So, following the principles of openness, transparency and fairness as set above, after </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please considere to insert the following piece of text: </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">~°~</div><div dir="auto">...completing any allocation process for </div><div dir="auto">a Ressource Member, or an assignment </div><div dir="auto">for an End User, the Staff has six months</div><div dir="auto"> to publish a set of comprehensive information related to the documentation</div><div dir="auto">submitted to satisfy the need-based </div><div dir="auto">condition, which MUST be vetted prior to </div><div dir="auto">any distribution of INRs; to be used </div><div dir="auto">within the AfriNIC's service region. </div><div dir="auto">~°~</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">“n” years of every allocation/assignment of IPv4 resources, the justification of the request must be published. </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...please remove all the above.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Towards that, the resource member will be warned 3 months before the publication with a draft of the summary to be published,. It will have up to 1 month, to provide a demonstration of reasons why some of the details can’t be made public (such as patents or similar), that show the uniqueness nature of the services offered which, if disclosed, could damage the resource member business. The staff will have 1 month to decide if that’s the case, and in doubt, they will escalate to the Board that must resolve in a maximum of 1 month.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">This policy shall be implemented in such way that all the resources allocated/assigned for over “n” years, will be chronologically warned in such way that allows the staff to process the possible responses of “non-disclosure” without requiring extra human resources.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">***<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Now, we need to decide if this is good enough, and how many years for the “n”. 2 years maybe?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...no need to define that constant! imho.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I will love also to hear from legal counsel/Board and lawyers participating in the community, how they see it …<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...i too! as for any other DPP :-)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I’m not even sure myself, this could work, but we could try.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...brother, i'm not sure that all DPPs which </div><div dir="auto">appeared to be obvious ended up ratified :-)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Unless, someone propose a better solution, it's worth trying it, imho...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks once more.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Shalom, </div><div dir="auto">--sb.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Jordi<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">@jordipalet</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dear AfriNIC's Community,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br>Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr>> a écrit :</p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt">> <br>> [...]<br>><br></p></blockquote></div></div>
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