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<p>For quiet a while in PDWG we have pretty much the <b>same group
of people</b> who have been trying hard to force a couple of
things into PDWG and AfriNic and which fortunately have been
failing on all of them. This is becoming every day more evident
and as much they get turned down on their tentative they keep
trying in a loophole hoping that at some point they will hit
something, but fortunately they keep failing on ALL their
tentatives.<br>
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<p>Their way to do things are pretty much static and the very same
people repeat the same stuff over and over and over again and
there are occasions where it seems the messages were all drafted
by the same person. It is too naive from some of them to believe
there are much community members who don't notice this. Below a
list of the stuff this same group tried and it shows the links
between some of these episodes and the type of controversy or even
wrong things they keep trying for:</p>
<p>- Tried as much as they could to force the pass of the Inter-RIR
transfer by all means, one of the most important proposals of the
existence of AfriNic and which can change A LOT for the RIR.<br>
- Supported the insertion of stuff never discussed in the PDWG at
the very last minute as "editorial change" to make legacy
resources to remain legacy, which only benefits those who profit
from these business<br>
- Tried everything to keep the disastrous ex Co-chairs that were
doing a pretty bad job plus having conflicts with community which
were fortunately recalled later on.<br>
- Opposed as much as they could from new Chairs elections although
they have tried to put their own candidates on that same selection
process (some of them with controvert nomination process by
member).<br>
- Not satisfied with not being able to have someone from their
group as Co-Chairs started to disrupt the PDWG and only
recognizing Co-Chair rules when is convenient.<br>
- Tried to fight hardly against proposals that seem to be
concerning to certain type of business they seem to support.<br>
- The very same people supported the same appeal to all proposals,
repeating the very same arguments and almost similar emails
written and repeated over and over.<br>
- Have sent appeals that have problems in complying with the CPM
trying at all costs to stop all possible proposals to carry on
their natural path. A pure dissatisfaction.<br>
- Keep supporting stuff like the usage of African Internet
resources out of the region in the contrary direction of
development of African region and the "right" of a member to take
away resources out of the rules<br>
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<p>And now this unreasonable recall request just adds up to the list
about show the same static moment.</p>
<p>Honestly, if they have any believe of what they are doing is not
being noticed by most PDWG participants then they might keep
trying because they feel they are taking seriously. <br>
No wonder every time they are faced with someone disputing their
argument they automatically invoke the 'right of freedom' to keep
saying the same repeating stuff.</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Em 28/07/2021 18:50, Lamiaa Chnayti
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<div dir="ltr">I have recently sent a request to
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<div><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap">For the community's information, I have forwarded below my email to the board, along with their response acknowledging the recall request, which will be discussed at the board's meeting on August 18th.</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap">Also, please find attached the PDF document outlining the recall request's detailed arguments and justifications.</span></div>
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 11:46<br>
To: Eddy Kayihura <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">eddy@afrinic.net</a>>, <<a
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</span>I am writing this email on behalf of myself and other community members, enlisted on the attached document, to request the recall of the current PDWG co-chairs. Their recent actions on both the last policy meeting and the RPD list have proved their inability to effectively perform their duties to comply with the process and address the concerns expressed on certain policies.<span style="outline-color:initial;outline-width:initial">
</span>Therefore, in order to reinstate the stability of the process of the PDWG, we find it necessary to request the recall of the current co-chairs and replace them.<span style="outline-color:initial;outline-width:initial">
</span>Please find attached the document outlining the appropriate justifications and supporting arguments of our demand.</pre>
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From: <span dir="auto"><<a
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 12:20<br>
To: Lamiaa Chnayti <<a
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Dear Ms Chnayti,<br>
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The Board received a request from you to recall the PDWG <br>
co-Chairs. The matter will be on the Board agenda at the
meeting <br>
scheduled for 18 August.<br>
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I will inform the PDWG co-Chairs about your request as a
matter of fairness.<br>
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Regards,<br>
S. Moonesamy<br>
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Board Chair, AFRINIC <br>
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