<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Same here,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I do not understand the cryptic message Mark is trying to send with the plant.</div><div class="">If there is anything that needs to be spoken, I propose that it should be said because the cryptic message can be interpreted, viewed or encrypted in various ways individually.</div><div class="">Likewise, this request should not be deemed unnecessary, as the Board has acknowledged it, let wait on the verdict from the Boards meeting to be held August 18th. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Elvis. <br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 29, 2021, at 20:55, Lamiaa Chnayti <<a href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" class="">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Et nous revoilà, du vide encore et encore... Contrairement aux personnes ayant un bagage constructif qui leur permet de contribuer à la discussion du rappel des Co-chairs, tu continues de masquer ton incapacité à le faire en évoquant du n'importe quoi. Sincèrement, tu me fais pitié et je pense vraiment qu'il est temps de changer ta stratégie, parce qu'à force de l'utiliser personne ne te prendra plus au sérieux dans cette liste, ce qui serait dommage pour quelqu'un qui n'a comme défense que son ancienneté dans cette communauté. En ce qui concerne le complexe de "patron" ou de "manger un salaire" , j'ignore ton mode de vie ou les principes auxquels tu es habitué, mais ça me fait de la peine que tu essaies de les appliquer aux autres. Je te remercie quand même d'avoir pris le rôle de l'animateur de la liste parce qu'il faut admettre que ça devient un peu ennuyeux sans toi. Sérieusement, tes posts me remontent toujours le moral, du coup merci encore.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Et encore une fois, tout ce que tu peux dire ou faire m'importe très peu. Mais bon chacun son choix, tu peux continuer à perdre ton temps à rédiger des attaques banales pendant que moi et les autres discutons l'essentiel.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cordialement,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Lamiaa<br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 12:19, Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" class="">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">Ahahahahahah ah ah ! Super ! Comme je suis imité dans mes propos ils ne sont pas dépourvus de sens à ce point. Lorsqu'on est ignorant dans un processus qu'on vient de découvrir on peut se comporter comme toi et vraiment je t'assure que je ne t'en veux pas car je connais ton degré d'ignorance sur le processus d'Afrinic j'en ai discuté avec toi si tu te rappelles. Je ne parle jamais de ce que je ne connais pas, et c'est pas parce que ton patron pretend que mes propos sont sans fondement que c'est vrai. Lui même je le connais mieux que toi j'échangeais avec lui avant même que tu ne découvres Afrinic. <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Une fois de plus je te confirme que tous mes propos ont leur sens et il le sait très bien, même ton grand Patron m'a approché, quand il luttait contre notre proposition de politique sur "Review" mais ça n'a pas marché.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Mange ton salaire et calme toi en ce qui me concerne.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">--</div><div dir="auto" class="">Arnaud </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 29 juil. 2021 à 10:38, Lamiaa Chnayti <<a href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;" class="">Hummmm!</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; min-height: 20.3px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;" class="">Toi je ne t'en veut pas du tout, j'ai juste pitié. Tu ne fais qu'avancer des propos vides et sans contenu, comme d'habitude. Donc tout ce que tu peux dire ou faire m'importe très peu.</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; min-height: 20.3px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;" class="">Bon courage à toi.</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class="">Lamiaa </font><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 01:04, Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">Timo, te fatigue pas, laisse là se faire utiliser, en plus elle joue son salaire, donc c'est normal.<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Mais nous tous on sait qui est qui. C'est une stratégie bien connue et médiévale, que CI applique actuellement à Afrinic, combat sur plusieurs fronts. Mais ils oublient que nous sommes plus nombreux qu'eux. Nous on le fait par conviction non pas parce qu'on nous paie quoi que ce soit. Nous voulons qu'Afrinic aille de l'avant, et non pas reculer et sommes prêt à tout pour cela.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Résistons.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">--</div><div dir="auto" class="">Arnaud </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 28 juil. 2021 à 23:16, Timothy Ola Akinfenwa <<a href="mailto:akin.akinfenwa@uniosun.edu.ng" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">akin.akinfenwa@uniosun.edu.ng</a>> a écrit :<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">This is getting more interesting.<br class="">IMHO, the PDWG has not been more stable, proactive and efficient in recent times than it has been lately especially since these new Co-Chairs took the helm of affairs. I think it is only fair that we allow them to do this tasking and 'volunteering' job without any further distractions such as this.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">The recall was totally UNNECESSARY!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small">Best!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small"><.ta/></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:58 PM Lamiaa Chnayti <<a href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear community,</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">I have recently sent a request to the Afrinic Board of Directors to recall the PDWG co-chairs, based on their<span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> recent actions on both the last policy meeting and the RPD list, that have proven their inability to effectively perform their duties to comply with the process and address the concerns expressed on certain policies.</span></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">For the community's information, I have forwarded below my email to the board, along with their response acknowledging the recall request, which will be discussed at the board's meeting on August 18th.</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Also, please find attached the PDF document outlining the recall request's detailed arguments and justifications.</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Best regards,</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(21,21,21);font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Lamiaa</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-size:large;font-weight:bold" class="">Forwarded Conversation</span><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: PDWG Co-Chairs Recall Request</span><br class="">------------------------<br class=""></div><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr" style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Lamiaa Chnayti</strong> <span dir="auto" class=""><<a href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>></span><br class="">Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 11:46<br class="">To: Eddy Kayihura <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">eddy@afrinic.net</a>>, <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">board@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><pre dir="auto" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-right:26px;margin-bottom:0px;padding:0.1px 0px 0px;outline:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background:transparent;font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(21,21,21)" class="">Dear Afrinic Board of Directors,</pre><pre dir="auto" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-right:26px;margin-bottom:0px;padding:0.1px 0px 0px;outline:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background:transparent;font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(21,21,21)" class=""><span style="outline-color:initial;outline-width:initial" class=""><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;outline:none" class=""><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;outline:none" class=""></span>I am writing this email on behalf of myself and other community members, enlisted on the attached document, to request the recall of the current PDWG co-chairs. Their recent actions on both the last policy meeting and the RPD list have proved their inability to effectively perform their duties to comply with the process and address the concerns expressed on certain policies.<span style="outline-color:initial;outline-width:initial" class=""><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;outline:none" class=""><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;outline:none" class=""></span>Therefore, in order to reinstate the stability of the process of the PDWG, we find it necessary to request the recall of the current co-chairs and replace them.<span style="outline-color:initial;outline-width:initial" class=""><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;outline:none" class=""><br style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;padding:0px;outline:none" class=""></span>Please find attached the document outlining the appropriate justifications and supporting arguments of our demand.</pre><pre dir="auto" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-right:26px;margin-bottom:0px;padding:0.1px 0px 0px;outline:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background:transparent;font-family:inherit;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(21,21,21)" class=""><br class=""></pre><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" class="">Best regards,</font></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class="">Lamiaa<br class=""></font><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr" style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">----------<br class="">From: <span dir="auto" class=""><<a href="mailto:chair@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">chair@afrinic.net</a>></span><br class="">Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 12:20<br class="">To: Lamiaa Chnayti <<a href="mailto:lamiaachnayti@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">lamiaachnayti@gmail.com</a>><br class="">Cc: <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">board@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""></div><br class=""><br class="">Dear Ms Chnayti,<br class="">
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The Board received a request from you to recall the PDWG <br class="">
co-Chairs. The matter will be on the Board agenda at the meeting <br class="">
scheduled for 18 August.<br class="">
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I will inform the PDWG co-Chairs about your request as a matter of fairness.<br class="">
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Regards,<br class="">
S. Moonesamy<br class="">
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Board Chair, AFRINIC <br class="">
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