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<p>This is so clear, that it is still hard to understand how people
can keep defending that resources should be used out of the
region, except from those who profit from getting African
resources to be sent out of the continent.<br>
There is enough amount of information giving reasons and
impediments for the resources to remain in the continent, but
still there are people that pretend that is not right, simply
because they want that.<br>
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<p>Sure any modification to the CPM to make it even more clear than
it already is applies to any resources and retrospectively.
Policies in general apply to all resources.</p>
<p>Although I think that at least 50% is a good start I don't really
like to have it in exact numbers because the main idea is that
resources to be used for development of Internet in the region and
if necessary that some minor part used out of the region fine as
long it provides support to the main stuff in the region. If had
to have numbers I would say that it should be even higher then
that as suggest for example 75%/25% which should be more than
enough to back connectivity to Africa.</p>
<p>But it is important to highlight that 50% is not the same as
majority. <b>Majority is 50% + 1</b> which makes more sense. So
if that would be the exact rule turning that into numbers if a
member holds a /22 then he would only be able to use a /24 out of
the region because /23 is NOT 50% + 1 of the /22 and /24 is the
smaller allocation to be announced to the Internet in general.</p>
<p>Regarding time I don't think that is the case because as it
stands now using most resources out of the region <b>is already
forbidden</b>, therefore if one is using it is already not
complying to the rules and must stop immediately. And even if one
understands otherwise and if it is the same someone it using ALL
resources out of the region it should not be given too much time
to stop that given what that means to the context.<br>
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<p>Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Em 28/07/2021 09:41, Jaco Kroon
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<p>Hi All,<br>
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I believe that it's plain that AFRINIC was established for the
benefit of the African continent, this is even enshrined in the
by-laws, as detailed in section 3.4. I believe sub-point (i)
summarises it quite well:
<p><i>(i)to provide the service of allocating and registering
Internet resources for the purposes of enabling communications
via open system network protocols and to assist in the
development and growth of the Internet in the </i><i><b>African</b></i><i>
region; [emphasis added]</i></p>
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<p>I won't quote the rest of it here, but the rest of the section
is equally relevant (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://afrinic.net/bylaws#b20-3" moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/bylaws#b20-3</a>)
and makes it plain that everything AFRINIC does should be for
the benefit of the African continent (region). Even the
*membership* is based on this regional affinity:</p>
<p><i>MEMBERSHIP - 6.1</i><i><br>
</i><i> Membership shall be open to:</i><i><br>
</i><i> (i) any Person [including non-natural persons eg
companies] who is <b>geographically based within</b>, and <b>providing
services in the African region</b>, and who is engaged in
the use of, or business of providing, open system protocol
network services;</i></p>
<p>That is - the member is based in the AFRINIC region. This
applies to all three classes of members (Registered, Resource
and Associate).</p>
<p>It is also implied here that the resources are for use within
the African continent. </p>
<p>Over the last while it's become apparent that many people are
extremely unhappy about the fact that Afrinic resources are
being used off-continent. Based on the above I think it's a
fair assumption/expectation (as well as appropriate) that at
least the majority of issued resources should be used in-region
(In particular IPv4 resources).<br>
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<p>I believe it to be appropriate at this time to state this as
policy in the CPM, and thereby to make the general sentiment
I've seen plain as day. This should then apply to all issued
resources retrospectively as well. Not only newly issued
resources (which is currently already dealt with from the soft
landing policy).<br>
</p>
<p>I request from the community opinions on the following:</p>
<p> 1. If you had to assign a percentage to out-of-region use,
what percentage of resources allocated from AFRINIC would be
considered "fair usage" for out of region use (I'm thinking "At
least 50% of issued resources should be used in-region", or then
"less than 50% of resources may be used out-of-region"); and</p>
<p> 2. Assuming that a policy gets passed to enforce some form of
in-region use - what would be an acceptable amount of time to
provide members to comply (I'm thinking either 6 or 12 months,
definitely no longer than 18 unless someone can justify that
sensibly) with respect to existing resources?</p>
<p>You're welcome to differentiate between different types of
resources (for example, I don't think it makes sense to have to
get a separate AS number just because a company is
multi-continent, so here as long as the AS is also used
in-region). Space on v6 is of such a nature that I'm inclined
to say "who cares".<br>
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<p>Currently the only restriction in the CPM regarding resource
usage relates to IPv4 during soft-landing (<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#Soft-Landing"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#Soft-Landing</a>
relating specifically to the last /8. The fact that this can
just be used in-region and then move other existing resources
out-of-region is of concern to me and this is part of the
"problem" I'd like to address in a policy update.<br>
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<p>Kind Regards,<br>
Jaco Kroon<br>
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