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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/07/2021 22:36, Owen DeLong via
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                style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">As defined
                in the<b class=""> ICP-2</b>, Afrinic must operate
                according to </span><b
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                  self-governance structure for setting local policies</span></b><span
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                which </span>explicitly<span
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                    developed by the community through the
                    PDP that is also developed by the same community.
                    AFRINIC implements what the
                    community has proposed, discussed and attained
                    consensus on.”</i></font></span></p>
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        ICP-2 governs the creation and acceptance of new RIRs into the
        RIR system. It has no material bearing on the RIR once it has
        been accepted into the RIR system, so quoting it here is not
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    Once again this is not correct information. Those reading it please
    consider it as simply Owen personal point of view.<br>
    It simply make zero sense to say the above given what ICP-2 means
    including after the creation of the RIR. It's not something to use
    one-off an be trashed right after as easy as said.
    <p>Just think for a minute that a key condition to create a new RIR
      is that have bottom-up self-governance structure. Then it passed 
      and on the day after it doesn't have that anymore. What sense does
      it have at all ? Simply none !<br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at
              05:58, Eddy Kayihura <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net"
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                  class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Dear PDWG,</span></div>
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                  style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"
                  class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">I have taken note of the concerns raised by Jordi with reference to the PDWG co-chairs </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Report on the Draft Policy Proposal "Board Prerogatives on the PDP" -AFPUB-2020-GEN-004-DRAFT02. </span></div>
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                  <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">AFRINIC staff produced an impact assessment report by staff on the concerned  policy</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">. The impact assessment highlighted a conflict between the provisions of Sections 3.6 and 3.61 of the proposed policy and Section 3.5 of the CPM.    </span></div></li>
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                  <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Following a legal assessment of the proposed texts regarding the above sections of the proposed policy,  the Board of Directors were further advised that their powers and prerogatives are  provided for in the bylaws, and by extension are governed by the Companies Act of the Republic of Mauritius.</span></div></li>
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                <div
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                  class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">In my opinion the Board ratification requirement is not a “symbolic stamp” but rather a final checkpoint by those who have been entrusted by the resource members to steer the organization towards a sustainable future by adopting sound, ethical, and legal governance and financial management policies.</span></div>
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                  class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">It is very unfortunate that we reached such a “dead-end”. However, I believe that where there is a will there's a way and we can collaborate to swiftly address the issue.</span></div>
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                  class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">I would like to propose to the PDWG co-chairs to organise a meeting with all interested parties. The aim of this meeting would be to better explain the rationale behind the current issue and hopefully get to a point that would address all the related concerns.</span></div>
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                <div
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                <br class="">
                <div
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                  class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">I would like to commend the PDWG who put in voluntary work to author and discuss the proposals in a consensus-based spirit. </span></div>
                <br class="">
                <div
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                  class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">We are confident that our PDWG will work together and bring forward improvements that will strengthen the foundation of the current Policy Development Process and address its challenges.</span></div>
                <br class="">
                <div
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                  class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">On a side note, I am sure the community has noticed that AFRINIC has not been communicating as swiftly as we normally do. I am aware that there are other threads where the PDWG expects feedback. All I can do at this point is apologise as we have faced multiple other threats that threaten the foundation of the entire bottom-up process system the PDP was founded upon.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Please rest assured that more clarity will be shared with the community very soon (my hope is that we can share more over the course of next week). Till then I trust that the PDWG members willI continue to uphold the Code of Conduct while dealing with each other and  refrain from unnecessary belittling comments.</span></div>
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