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<p>Who told you that you can simply send an updated version of you
appeal at any time ?<br>
There is a timeframe the appeal can be sent for AC analysts.</p>
<p>You basically gathered messages after the appeal was filled and
incorporated into this new version in the section destined to show
evidences of failed attempt to resolve the disagreement through
discussion, but that happened AFTER your initial appeal was filled
AND the decision was already taken, a proper confusion. Many of
these evidences were put after the time destined to discussion and
appeal submission.</p>
<p>Point 3 is completely false and something that has been repeated
several times that "RIRs will inject data in the routing process"<br>
Point 5 is quiet obvious and what is wrong with it ?<br>
Point 6 is also false and Autonomous Systems remain completelly
free to choose if they wan to use the TA or not even to validate
RPKI at all.<br>
Point 11 mentioned other RIRs. How can other RIR's discussion be a
point for AC to analyze if the consensus was reached or not ? This
is a point to be put during the discussion of the proposal, not in
the appeal.<br>
</p>
<p>It seems you keep confusing things about PDP and how things work
in order to have your points considered.<br>
</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Em 7/22/2021 6:07 AM, Meriem Dayday
escreveu:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am sending my updated appeal against the consensus
declared by the co-chairs on the RPKI Policy. I incorporated
some new elements for the AC and the chairs to take into
account.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I hope that this updated appeal will be taken into
consideration.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best regards.</div>
<div>
<div><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 22 juil. 2021 à 09:54,
Meriem Dayday <<a href="mailto:meriemdayday@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">meriemdayday@gmail.com</a>>
a écrit :<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear PDWG co-chairs,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">I would like to remind you that there is
still an ongoing appeal against the implementation of
the RPKI policy, of which we did not get the results. It
is our right as a community to file an appeal, and more
importantly to receive a proper final evaluation from
the appeal committee (although it got dissolved, we are
still waiting for its reconstitution, hence, the
announcement of the appeal results). </div>
<div dir="auto">I must say, this behavior violates the CPM
and displays a huge disregard of the community’s
opinion. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div>We are awaiting AFRINIC's clarification on that
serious matter.</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best regards.</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 21 juil. 2021
à 18:43, PDWG Chair <<a
href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a>> a
écrit :<br>
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<div
style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">This is to announce closure of the last call period for the proposal </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:700;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">“RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space”, AFPUB-2019-GEN-006-DRAFT03</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">.</span></div>
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<div>On 17 Jun 2021, at 17:17, PDWG Chair <<a
href="mailto:dacostadarwin@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dacostadarwin@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Dear PDWG,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We hereby extend the Last Call period for
this draft policy proposal by two weeks to <b><u>Saturday
3rd July 2021 at 2359UTC.</u></b></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This will allow the following:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. The AFRINIC Secretariat to respond to
the operational/implementation concerns that
have been raised by the PDWG. This will be
done on or before Wednesday 23rd June 2021.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. Thereafter, give the PDWG time to review
the response from the AFRINIC Secretariat and
further engage on the same, among other
resultant matters.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa </div>
<div>AFRINIC PDWG CO-CHAIRS</div>
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<div>On 8 Jun 2021, at 15:58, PDWG Chair
<<a href="mailto:vincent@ngundi.me.ke"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vincent@ngundi.me.ke</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div>
<p>Dear PDWG,</p>
<p>Following the commencement of the
Last Call period on 5th June 2021, we
have noted some concerns that have
been raised by some members of the
PDWG. As Co-Chairs, and following a
review and analysis of the responses,
we have concluded that all the
concerns raised have been adequately
addressed by either the authors of
this policy proposal, or by other
members of the PDWG.</p>
<p>We therefore encourage participants
to engage in, and pursue, any
editorial changes to the policy
proposal as well as any contentious
issues that are objective and founded
on proper justifications.</p>
<p>We also remind the community to
adhere to the AfriNIC Code of Conduct
(<a
href="https://www.afrinic.net/code"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.afrinic.net/code</a>)
in order to ensure that our
deliberations remain professional,
respectful and appropriate at all
times.</p>
<p>Finally, we wish to inform the PDWG
that the Last Call period closes on
19th June 2021 at 2359UTC.</p>
<p>Regards,<br>
Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa<br>
AFRINIC PDWG CO-Chairs<br>
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<div>On 08/06/2021 16:21, jeffery_sky
via RPD wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="times new
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dir="ltr">Hello, <br>
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<div><font face="times new
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serif"><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr"></span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">To clarify,
these concerns are
becoming repetitive due to
the lack of adequate
responses from the </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">concerned
stakeholders. Also, I want
to </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">address the fact
</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">that the real
problem here is not</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr"> RPKI in any </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">way. </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">What is really
bothering me is that<b> </b></span><b><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">RIR </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">is </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">injecti</span></b><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr"><b>ng its own
data into RPKI</b></span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">, which makes </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">the </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">previous </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">argument </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">about how
signing space is in</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">valid</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">.</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">Further, </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">the usage of </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">RPKI will </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">lead to</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">AS0 all </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">unallocated
space for you</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">. Consequently</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">, </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">the routing
changes</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">.</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr"><br>
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<div><font face="times new
roman, new york, times,
serif"><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">I understand
that some of t</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">hese concerns
are repe</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">ated, but I
think it is because they
were not </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">addressed
properly. The responses
provided are mainly vague
and it seems to me that
you are dodging </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">the comments by
bringing the Last call
phase procedure and
calling out the PDWG co</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">-</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">chairs. <br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font face="times new
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serif"><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr"></span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">The last call
phas</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">e is dedicated
to this type of
discussions, and if
several people are not
convinced, it </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">simply means
that the co</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">-</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">authors should
try providing insightful
responses that go straight
to the </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">point, not vague
ones. If this vicious
cycle and the lack of
proper a</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">nswers
continues, consensus will
</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">never happen,
and the policy cannot be
implemented. Also, most of
the raised objections have
nothing </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">to do with
technicalities, therefore,
they are meant to be
discussed on the RPD. </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">Finally, the
arguments you perceive
repe</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">ated, have not
been received accurate
replies, which means </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">they will keep
popping out. Consequently,
the best thing to do, is
to dig deeper in this
proposal, instead </span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">of labelling the
arguments as invalid.</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr">In the hope of
receiving insightful
answers...</span><span
style="font-size:18.4px"
dir="ltr"><br>
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<div> On Tuesday, June 8, 2021,
9:40:10 PM GMT+9, Fernando
Frediani <a
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target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><fhfrediani@gmail.com></a>
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understanding is an RIR is a
resource dispenser.<br
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resource from AfriNIC, I will
prefer one that was not<br
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used for spamming and network
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>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021,
11:30 PM Fernando Frediani
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target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>>
wrote:<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>> AfriNic (or any
other RIR) is the resource
holder for IP space that<br
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>> IANA has
allocated to it. So who else
could secure that space until<br
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>> it is assigned
to an organization issuing
ROAs if not the current<br
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>> resource holder
?<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">
>> Must we have a
policy accepted by either RIPE
or ARIN first in order<br
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>> to accept it in
AfriNic afterwards ?<br
clear="none">
>> This is not a
worry to the RIR, it is
actually an additional<br
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>> guarantee that
no one else will try to make
usage of IP space under<br
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>> its
responsability.<br
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>><br clear="none">
>> Fernando<br
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>><br clear="none">
>> On 07/06/2021
19:14, Daniel Yakmut via RPD
wrote:<br clear="none">
>>> Dear Jordi,<br
clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> Just out of
curiosity why has RIPE and
ARIN refused to adopt the<br
clear="none">
>>> RPKI ROA and
make it their responsibility
that it is used by<br
clear="none">
>>> resource
holder?. I will agree that
RPKI ROA is a good tool to<br
clear="none">
>>> secure BGP
routing, however I don't see
as the responsibility of<br
clear="none">
>>> an RIR to
implement it.<br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> My strong
opinion is that any resource
holder should be<br
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>>> responsible
for securing its resources and
if RPKI ROA is the best<br
clear="none">
>>> way to
prevent hijack, then it will
enjoy patronage. Making it a<br
clear="none">
>>> job of
AfriNIC, will possibly be
going over board.<br
clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> Responding
to my opening question, I
believe RIPE and ARIN are not<br
clear="none">
>>> keen on
accepting your arguments
because they are mundane. This<br
clear="none">
>>> means
resource holders should handle
this issue, without making it<br
clear="none">
>>> a worry of
the RIR.<br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> In this
regard, AfriNIC should
concentrate on handling other
more<br clear="none">
>>> important
issues, hence this policy is
not relevant.<br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> Simply<br
clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> Daniel<br
clear="none">
>>><br clear="none">
>>> On
07/06/2021 6:3pm, JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br
clear="none">
>>>> Ni
Mimi,____<br clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> No, is
not ideological, the legal
counsel already confirmed the<br
clear="none">
>>>> being
bookkeepers has many other
**related** implications, such<br
clear="none">
>>>> as
provide a trustable source of
accurate data, and this is
what<br clear="none">
>>>> RPKI and
AS0 improve.____<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> The fact
that in RIPE has not been
accepted yet is just one more<br
clear="none">
>>>> excuse,
if you compare it with the
fact that the other TWO RIRs<br
clear="none">
>>>> where it
has been submitted (APNIC and
LACNIC) accepted it and in<br
clear="none">
>>>> none of
those regions there have been
any of the excuses and lack<br
clear="none">
>>>> of
knowledge about RPKI that we
are hearing here. As I’ve<br
clear="none">
>>>>
explained already, I don’t
think the RIPE chairs decision
was<br clear="none">
>>>> correct,
and we will make sure to
resubmit the proposal there<br
clear="none">
>>>> once a
consistent appeal process is
available, in case chairs<br
clear="none">
>>>> take
again a wrong decision. Also,
then the experience in APNIC,<br
clear="none">
>>>> LACNIC
and AFRINIC will show that
those motivations are<br
clear="none">
>>>>
ridiculous.____<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> From
time to time is good that ARIN
and RIPE aren’t the leaders,<br
clear="none">
>>>> you
don’t think so? It shows that
very smart people exist in<br
clear="none">
>>>> other
regions as well!____<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> Once
more, sometimes policies in
one or the other region fail
to<br clear="none">
>>>> reach
consensus, but it happens
sooner or later.____<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> If you
have a simple and trustable
tool such as RPKI to drop<br
clear="none">
>>>>
invalids, you have a better
way (if you want) to avoid bad
actors<br clear="none">
>>>> to use
prefixes that don’t belong to
them as they are still on<br
clear="none">
>>>> the
hands of AFRINIC. This is just
facts. Not ideological, not<br
clear="none">
>>>> opinions
or personal view points. So
yes, AS0 avoids, if you<br
clear="none">
>>>> operate
your network in a consistent
way, to be faked with<br
clear="none">
>>>> prefixes
not allocated/assigned by
AFRINIC, and thus helps to<br
clear="none">
>>>> prevent
hijacking.____<br clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>>
Regards,____<br clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>>
Jordi____<br clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>>
@jordipalet____<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> El
7/6/21 18:47, "Mimi dy" <<a
shape="rect"
href="mailto:dym5328@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">dym5328@gmail.com</a><br
clear="none">
>>>>
<mailto:<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:dym5328@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">dym5328@gmail.com</a>>>
escribió:____<br clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> __ __<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> Dear
WG,____<br clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> ____<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> I think
the issue here is ideological.
Many people believe that<br
clear="none">
>>>> RIRs are
mere bookkeepers, and it is
not in their mandate to<br
clear="none">
>>>> inject
data into the routing
database. That is the reason
why<br clear="none">
>>>> RIPE did
not approve a similar
proposal, which I totally
agree<br clear="none">
>>>> with.
Moreover, I wanted to react to
Jordi’s statement, saying<br
clear="none">
>>>> that
these objections are based on
practical and technical<br
clear="none">
>>>> matters.
There is not only one routing
database, there are many,<br
clear="none">
>>>> isn’t it
kind of messy? And that is not
even the main reason why<br
clear="none">
>>>> I object
to this policy. ____<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> From
another perspective, since
people can adjust and control<br
clear="none">
>>>> their
routers, can you precise how
this policy can potentially<br
clear="none">
>>>> prevent/
reduce hijacking?____<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>> ____<br
clear="none">
>>>><br
clear="none">
>>>>
Best.____<br clear="none">
>>>><br
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>>>>
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