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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The problem is that the number of seats is now 3, not 5.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Anyway, I still believe an appeal decision must have consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Saludos,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 15/7/21 2:16, "Fernando Frediani" <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hello Jordi<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I have to disagree with you about the decisions taken by AC have to be by consensus. They decide by majority and in my view is expected they do that day as they have a pretty limited number of members plus the fact that decision (which is final) must be as much objectives as possible should the prior one have left doubts about it. Knowing consensus is not unanimity if 3 members of the AC think in one way and 2 in another way how will the consensus will be determined ? Who will be in charge to determine it ? That's why it is appropriate for a body as AC to decide by simply majority of its members. Process in the PDWG done by us community is a different thing and why have pretty different working.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Regards<br>Fernando<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On 14/07/2021 14:00, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi all,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The new ToR at least don’t violate so explicitly the PDP as the previous one.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’ve a problem however with decisions following majority. That doesn’t make sense to me. All the work in the PDP (and the AC is part of it) is done following consensus. How then the AC now is changed to work with “democracy”?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Finally, point 3 it is a bit irrational in my opinion. If the co-chairs erred in their decision about consensus, then the AC is actually changing that decision. Yes, you can say that this is an “indirect” consequence, but actually is very “direct”, and in fact, 3.5.2 of the PDP say “The Appeal Committee may direct that the Chair(s) decision be annulled if the Policy Development Process has not been followed.”, so clearly, if by any reason the decision of the co-chairs is erred as confirmed by the AC, the AC duty is to change that.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Otherwise, if the Board is willing to change that, then it will be a new Board violation of the PDP, which can only be done by mean of a policy proposal reaching consensus.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>El 14/7/21 17:54, "AFRINIC Policy Liaison" <<a href="mailto:policy-liaison@afrinic.net">policy-liaison@afrinic.net</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear Colleagues,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Please be advised that the new Terms of Reference for the Policy Development Appeal Committee has been published</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>(</span><a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155CC'>https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> ) as per the Board Resolution 202107.622<b> (</b></span><a href="https://www.afrinic.net/board/meeting/2021#r622"><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155CC'>https://www.afrinic.net/board/meeting/2021#r622</span></b></a><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>).</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The AFRINIC Policy Development Appeal Committee, or the Appeal Committee, is a committee appointed by the AFRINIC Board, intended to adjudicate appeals in terms of the Conflict Resolution section of the AFRINIC Policy Development Process (PDP). Any such appeal will involve a disagreement regarding the actions taken by the Chair(s) of the Policy Development Working Group (PDWG).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The AFRINIC Board at its meeting held on <b>08 July 2021</b> resolved to revoke the current Terms of Reference for the Appeal Committee and replace them with new Terms of Reference.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>As a consequence of the above, the Appeal Committee that was reconstituted by the Board on <b>14 April 2021</b> was dissolved. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The new version makes the required provision for<b> </b>Section 3.5(1) of AFRINIC’s Consolidated Policy Manual.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>We invite you all to take note<b> </b>of its scope with regards to the composition, term and duty of the committee.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The reconstitution of the Appeal Committee is currently ongoing so that the current appeals can be assessed. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Yours Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>AFRINIC Policy Liaison Team.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:70.8pt;text-align:justify'><a href="mailto:policy-liaison@afrinic.net"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155CC'>policy-liaison@afrinic.net</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><pre style='margin-left:70.8pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:70.8pt'>AFRINIC Policy Liaison.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:70.8pt'>t: +230 403 51 00 | f: +230 466 6758 | tt: @afrinic | w:www.afrinic.net<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:70.8pt'>facebook.com/afrinic | flickr.com/afrinic | youtube.com/afrinicmedia<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br>**********************************************<br>IPv4 is over<br>Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br><a href="http://www.theipv6company.com">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>The IPv6 Company<br><br>This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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