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<p>Hello Jordi</p>
<p>I have to disagree with you about the decisions taken by AC have
to be by consensus. They decide by majority and in my view is
expected they do that day as they have a pretty limited number of
members plus the fact that decision (which is final) must be as
much objectives as possible should the prior one have left doubts
about it. Knowing consensus is not unanimity if 3 members of the
AC think in one way and 2 in another way how will the consensus
will be determined ? Who will be in charge to determine it ?
That's why it is appropriate for a body as AC to decide by simply
majority of its members. Process in the PDWG done by us community
is a different thing and why have pretty different working.</p>
<p>Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/07/2021 14:00, JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">The new ToR at least don’t violate so
explicitly the PDP as the previous one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I’ve a problem however with decisions following
majority. That doesn’t make sense to me. All the work in the
PDP (and the AC is part of it) is done following consensus.
How then the AC now is changed to work with “democracy”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Finally, point 3 it is a bit irrational in my
opinion. If the co-chairs erred in their decision about
consensus, then the AC is actually changing that decision.
Yes, you can say that this is an “indirect” consequence, but
actually is very “direct”, and in fact, 3.5.2 of the PDP say
“The Appeal Committee may direct that the Chair(s) decision
be annulled if the Policy Development Process has not been
followed.”, so clearly, if by any reason the decision of the
co-chairs is erred as confirmed by the AC, the AC duty is to
change that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Otherwise, if the Board is willing to change
that, then it will be a new Board violation of the PDP,
which can only be done by mean of a policy proposal reaching
consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 14/7/21
17:54, "AFRINIC Policy Liaison" <<a
href="mailto:policy-liaison@afrinic.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">policy-liaison@afrinic.net</a>>
escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Dear
Colleagues,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Please
be advised that the new Terms of Reference for the Policy
Development Appeal Committee has been published</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">(</span><a
href="https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155CC">https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">
) as per the Board Resolution 202107.622<b> (</b></span><a
href="https://www.afrinic.net/board/meeting/2021#r622"
moz-do-not-send="true"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155CC">https://www.afrinic.net/board/meeting/2021#r622</span></b></a><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">).</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The
AFRINIC Policy Development Appeal Committee, or the Appeal
Committee, is a committee appointed by the AFRINIC Board,
intended to adjudicate appeals in terms of the Conflict
Resolution section of the AFRINIC Policy Development Process
(PDP). Any such appeal will involve a disagreement regarding
the actions taken by the Chair(s) of the Policy Development
Working Group (PDWG).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The
AFRINIC Board at its meeting held on <b>08 July 2021</b>
resolved to revoke the current Terms of Reference for the
Appeal Committee and replace them with new Terms of
Reference.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">As
a consequence of the above, the Appeal Committee that was
reconstituted by the Board on <b>14 April 2021</b> was
dissolved. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The
new version makes the required provision for<b> </b>Section
3.5(1) of AFRINIC’s Consolidated Policy Manual.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">We
invite you all to take note<b> </b>of its scope with
regards to the composition, term and duty of the committee.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The
reconstitution of the Appeal Committee is currently ongoing
so that the current appeals can be assessed. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Yours
Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">AFRINIC
Policy Liaison Team.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
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href="mailto:policy-liaison@afrinic.net"
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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