<div dir="auto">I would like to build up on Dabu’s statement regarding the resignation of two members of the Appeal Committee. Where do we stand with this? I do not want to assume that there is something going on that it resulted to their resignation, while there are appeals that need to be discussed. Then we are getting the news that the AC is getting dissolved. That in itself provides a questionable scenario. Add to the fact that the Board is silent with unaddressed queries in the community. We need to build a community of transparency and honesty. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Now, what does the rules state regarding the resignation of the members of the AC? We only got a technical answer which leads to a substantial discussion. But the board is not addressing the matter at hand - what happens to the remaining appeals? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Erick</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 3:18 PM Dabu Sifiso <<a href="mailto:dabu.sifiso@yandex.com">dabu.sifiso@yandex.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Dear Caleb,</div><div><br></div><div>Don't misquote the rules and do the classic "you are too young/new to understand", the dissolution has nothing to do with, and that is from the board itself:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><strong style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif">"Resolution 202107.622</strong></p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><strong style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif">WHEREAS</strong> the Board of Directors has taken note that despite its previous resolution dated 14 April 2021 pertaining to the reconstitution of the Appeal Committee, the appointed members thereof have exhibited a reluctance to deliver on their functions."</p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Now, looking at the resolutions from April, there is nothing about reconstitution, quite the contrary:</p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><strong style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif">"Resolution 202104.606</strong></p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Despite the provisions of the current Appeal Committee’s Terms of Reference and in view of 2 members of the Appeal Committee having resigned, the Board resolves that</p><ol style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><li style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif">pending the review of the Appeal Committee’s Terms of Reference, the Appeal Committee be exceptionally allowed to proceed as a committee of 3 members, and</li><li style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif">the remaining 3 members of the Appeal Committee is considered sufficient to constitute the Appeal Committee’s quorum until the 2 vacancies are filled."</li></ol><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">@Board,</p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">I really don't understand how the logic from the board works.</p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">If the chair of the board or someone else from the board would like to explain how the April resolution is having anything to do with "reconstitution" of the appeal committee, please feel free to explain the thought process, otherwise, it looks like you are making up resolutions that do not exist.</p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Regards,</p><p style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Dabu</p><br>17:50, 12 July 2021, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>>:<br><blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Dear Taiwo, Ibeanusi, Emem, Mimi, Wijdane, Erick ,Christian,<div><br></div><div>It seems seven of you have been having a monologue scenario of conversation as you all seem to speak the same language from the same perspective without taking your time to read. I want to believe certain information might pre-date your participation in PDP so, I will like to provide some information that might help you understand the PDP process better.</div><div><br></div><div>1. Appeal committee members are appointed by the board and independent in their opinion when interpreting appeals during their term but within the ToR.</div><div>2. As per their <a href="https://afrinic.net/ast/pdf/policy/afrinic-policy-development-appeal-committee-v1-20170718.pdf" target="_blank">ToR: Sections 3.3.2.</a> <b>"Every three (3) years, or more often at its sole discretion, the Board shall replace
the entire Appeal Committee" </b>Therefore, if the board dissolves the AC, they have such privileges to within the scope of delegated powers by your membership votes. May I remind you that the first know AC as documented on this page <a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee#appeals" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee#appeals</a> was on <span style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(245,245,245);color:rgb(117,117,117)"><span style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif">2018-01-19</span>. </span>In my informed view, January 2018 - July 2021 is more than 3 years and so the board did not err in their decision for dissolution as the AC needs a refresh.</div><div>3. Let me further provide more education to you as per the issues you raised on the appeal against Co-Chair elections. That appeal in the first place should never have been presented if you have taken the time to read the CPM with an unbiased lens. </div><div><span style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(117,117,117)">The need for this Appeal Committee is specified in </span><a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual?view=article&id=1606&lang=en#Conflict-Resolutions" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;text-decoration:none;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(210,114,70)" target="_blank">section 3.5 of the Consolidated Policy Manual.</a><br></div><div><p style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin:0px 0px 5px;color:rgb(117,117,117)">The relevant section says:</p><div style="border:1px solid rgb(188,232,241);border-top-left-radius:4px;border-top-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-left-radius:4px;box-sizing:border-box;font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;margin-bottom:20px;padding:15px;background-color:rgb(217,237,247);color:rgb(49,112,143)"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px;font-family:roboto,sans-serif">A person who disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s) shall discuss the matter with the PDWG Chair(s) or with the PDWG. If the disagreement cannot be resolved in this way, the person may file an appeal with an Appeal Committee appointed by the AFRINIC Board of Directors. An appeal can only be filed if it is supported by three (3) persons from the Working Group who have participated in the discussions.</p><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:5px 0px 0px;font-family:roboto,sans-serif">The appeal must be submitted within two weeks of the public knowledge of the decision. The Appeal Committee shall issue a report on its review of the complaint to the Working Group. The Appeal Committee may direct that the Chair(s) decision be annulled if the Policy Development Process has not been followed.</p></div></div></div><div>Therefore, from the foregoing, you erred in logic by appealing an election/selection of Co-Chairs as you mentioned. The CPM says you can only appeal the decisions of the co-chair by discussing with the co-chairs and not discuss their elections with them or appeal their elections. It means we need a co-chair by whatever means as prescribed by the CPM which was fulfilled.(Should i ask, did you discuss the election process with the current or previous co-chairs to fulfill this clause since there was an absence of co-chairs : <span style="font-family:roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(217,237,247);color:rgb(49,112,143)">A person who disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s) shall discuss the matter with the PDWG Chair(s) ?</span></div><div>In the light of this, I will appeal/advise you to drop what is not logical in reasoning as provisioned in the CPM such as appealing an election process. Also, It will be best for you to be patient for reconstitution of AC which is the prerogative of the board.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank You.</div><div><b>Caleb Ogundele</b></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 3:16 PM Taiwo Oye <<a href="mailto:taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com" target="_blank">taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>My question is what happens to the existing appeals. </div><div>How do we move forward on the appeal on the “transfer policy” as well as the pending appeal on the “co-chairs election/ selection”. </div><div>This are issues that should be clearly addressed while announcing the dissolve of the said committee<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote>On Jul 11, 2021, at 23:53, Ibeanusi Elvis <<a href="mailto:ibeanusielvis@gmail.com" target="_blank">ibeanusielvis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote><div dir="ltr">Hello AFRINIC Board, <div><br></div><div>This clearly infers to excessive abuse of power by the AFRINIC Board. I am in support with the shared ideology that the Board cannot just make such drastic decisions without following the full procedures as outlined in the PDP.</div><div>The Appeal Committee still has ongoing appeals to conduct and to handle, and this unanticipated, questionable dissolution by the Board shows a disregard of the PDP and what it stands for. </div><div>Sincerely, I am not surprised by this event by the AFRINIC Board based of the fact that such occurrences which had the Board wielding and utilizing their power excessively and abusively has been on a repetitive mood.</div><div>This issue not only needs to be addressed but also, such instances should not be allowed to repeat itself again. </div><div>Just my opinion. </div><div><br></div><div>Best regards, </div><div>Elvis.<br><div><br><blockquote><div>On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:34, Mimi dy <<a href="mailto:dym5328@gmail.com" target="_blank">dym5328@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I am quite surprised to see that AFRINIC is resorting to such drastic measures, like AC dissolution, just to avoid handling a couple of appeals that have been submitted. The CPM clearly states that appeals MUST be considered and the matter should be investigated properly by the AC. Nonetheless, instead of looking into the raised issues and providing an "appropriate assessment" of the policies, AFRINIC is undoubtedly delaying/ refusing to investigate, which threatens the very core of this community and internet governance: CONSENSUS.</div><div><br></div><div>Please keep in mind that the policies under appeal, should NOT be ratified until the AC announces their assessment results.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Le dim. 11 juil. 2021 à 18:14, Christian Orozco <<a href="mailto:chresgoro@gmail.com" target="_blank">chresgoro@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote style="border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">Hi Emem,<br><br>Indeed! We share the same observation. This lack of action towards the complications of the dissolution is quite alarming. As time passes by with AFRINIC's failure to work on these issues, more and more users will be disadvantaged. More so, the call for transparency has been constantly growing. It should not even be a "call" (or be demanded) since transparency needs to be practiced automatically and without question. The recent decisions from the Board and the associated absence of urgency seem to contradict one of the core values of AFRINIC: <i>integrity</i>.<br><br>To AFRINIC, as one of the many concerned internet users, <u>it is of utmost interest to hear from you addressing this crucial matter</u>. Thank you!<br><br><br><br>Respectfully,<br>Christian</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 9:17 PM Emem William <<a href="mailto:dwizard65@gmail.com" target="_blank">dwizard65@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Dear AFRNIC board,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please are you aware that this appeal committee has to finish the appeals they have at hand before you can dissolve them?</div><div dir="auto">Are you not also worried that you're gradually turning urself into the alfa and omega of AFRINIC? </div><div dir="auto">You declared the co-chairs under a questionable circumstance now you want to have a complete influence on the appeals.</div><div dir="auto">We need to close shop now cos there is no more PDP. It's now Boardchair's PDP.</div><div dir="auto">... just my candid observation.</div><br><div>Regards,<br>Emem William<br></div></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 18:05 Dr Paulos Nyirenda <<a href="mailto:paulos@sdnp.org.mw" target="_blank">paulos@sdnp.org.mw</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">On 9 Jul 2021 at 1:48, <a href="mailto:chair@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">chair@afrinic.net</a> wrote:<br>
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> Dear Dr Nyirenda,<br>
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> The Board at its meeting held on 08 July 2021 resolved, inter-alia, to<br>
> revoke the existing Appeal Committee Terms of Reference and further<br>
> resolved to replace same with a new Terms of Reference which will soon<br>
> be published on AFRINIC's website.<br>
> <br>
> As a consequence of the above, kindly note that the Appeal Committee<br>
> that was reconstituted by the Board on 14 April 2021 has thus been<br>
> dissolved and I seize this opportunity to thank you for your voluntary<br>
> work and time that you have so far put in for AFRINIC, and we are sure<br>
> you will continue to be involved with the AFRINIC community and the<br>
> sustainable development of the Internet on our continent.<br>
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To: Paulos Nyirenda <<a href="mailto:paulos@sdnp.org.mw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">paulos@sdnp.org.mw</a>><br>
Subject: Dissolution of Appeal Committee<br>
Date sent: Fri, 09 Jul 2021 01:48:42 -0700<br>
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> Dear Dr Nyirenda,<br>
> <br>
> The Board at its meeting held on 08 July 2021 resolved, inter-alia, to<br>
> revoke the existing Appeal Committee Terms of Reference and further<br>
> resolved to replace same with a new Terms of Reference which will soon<br>
> be published on AFRINIC's website.<br>
> <br>
> As a consequence of the above, kindly note that the Appeal Committee<br>
> that was reconstituted by the Board on 14 April 2021 has thus been<br>
> dissolved and I seize this opportunity to thank you for your voluntary<br>
> work and time that you have so far put in for AFRINIC, and we are sure<br>
> you will continue to be involved with the AFRINIC community and the<br>
> sustainable development of the Internet on our continent.<br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> S. Moonesamy<br>
> <br>
> Board Chair, AFRINIC<br>
> Mobile: <span>+230 5824 5410</span> <br>
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