<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello All, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">First, you mean to tell that as large as the internet community and internet ecosystem is global, and with a platform like this that that the AFRINIC and other RIR’s have ceased to promote the freedom to express views, opinions and share ideas all issues that concern and has to deal with the advancement of the internet does not welcome similarity in opinions and ideology?</div><div class="">Hence, in a situation where someday tens or hundreds of people share a similar ideology, whether you view it from your perspective as right or wrong, based on the fact that there are many of them with same idea and opinion, they should be considered to have an ulterior motive behind it or a Monologue?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Additionally, @Caleb your interpretation of the Section 3.5 of the CPM as a justification sorry but totally makes no sense. In this situation whereby the AC no longer exists, how can person file an appeal to a nonexistent Appeal Committee to resolve a disagreement with the AFRINIC Board (remember whom fired the AC) nor even expect on getting a declaration or verdict from the AC. Also, the Section 3.5 focused and starts with “A person who disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s)…….”. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Quick question, if someone should support your ideology or prespective on the “Dissolution of the Appeal Committee”, can i consider it a Monologue?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks, </div><div class="">Elvis. </div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 13, 2021, at 18:21, Wijdane Goubi <<a href="mailto:goubi.wijdane@gmail.com" class="">goubi.wijdane@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;line-height:115%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Hello,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;line-height:115%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">It's
exhausting to have to deal with these types of charges on a regular basis,
where numerous members who happen to agree on the same things or see a
situation from the same point of view are accused of something they are almost
certainly not.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;line-height:115%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">I'll say it
again: let's stop accusing people of their character, beliefs, and values and
instead take a stand and discuss the issue at hand, because 7,8, or even 100
people agreeing on something doesn't explain anything other than the fact that
the issue at hand is very important and should be reconsidered.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;line-height:115%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">In terms of
the co- chair's dissolution; it simply does not make sense to dismiss them
overnight, especially because they still have appeals to deal with.
Furthermore, the CPM is open to interpretation, and it can be used and
interpreted by anyone based on their intended outcomes. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;line-height:115%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Furthermore,
we are all aware and agree that the appeal committee is reconstituted every
three years, and no one has stated differently; nonetheless, they should first
deal with the appeals that are currently pending, which makes perfect sense.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;line-height:115%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Regards,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;line-height:115%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Wijdane</span></p></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 12 juil. 2021 à 17:49, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" class="">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Taiwo, Ibeanusi, Emem, Mimi, Wijdane, Erick ,Christian,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It seems seven of you have been having a monologue scenario of conversation as you all seem to speak the same language from the same perspective without taking your time to read. I want to believe certain information might pre-date your participation in PDP so, I will like to provide some information that might help you understand the PDP process better.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. Appeal committee members are appointed by the board and independent in their opinion when interpreting appeals during their term but within the ToR.</div><div class="">2. As per their <a href="https://afrinic.net/ast/pdf/policy/afrinic-policy-development-appeal-committee-v1-20170718.pdf" target="_blank" class="">ToR: Sections 3.3.2.</a> <b class="">"Every three (3) years, or more often at its sole discretion, the Board shall replace
the entire Appeal Committee" </b>Therefore, if the board dissolves the AC, they have such privileges to within the scope of delegated powers by your membership votes. May I remind you that the first know AC as documented on this page <a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee#appeals" target="_blank" class="">https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee#appeals</a> was on <span style="background-color:rgb(245,245,245);color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class="">2018-01-19. </span>In my informed view, January 2018 - July 2021 is more than 3 years and so the board did not err in their decision for dissolution as the AC needs a refresh.</div><div class="">3. Let me further provide more education to you as per the issues you raised on the appeal against Co-Chair elections. That appeal in the first place should never have been presented if you have taken the time to read the CPM with an unbiased lens. </div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class="">The need for this Appeal Committee is specified in </span><a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual?view=article&id=1606&lang=en#Conflict-Resolutions" style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:transparent;box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(210,114,70);text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" class="">section 3.5 of the Consolidated Policy Manual.</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 5px;color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class="">The relevant section says:</p><div style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:15px;margin-bottom:20px;border:1px solid rgb(188,232,241);border-radius:4px;color:rgb(49,112,143);background-color:rgb(217,237,247);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class=""><div style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px;" class="">A person who disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s) shall discuss the matter with the PDWG Chair(s) or with the PDWG. If the disagreement cannot be resolved in this way, the person may file an appeal with an Appeal Committee appointed by the AFRINIC Board of Directors. An appeal can only be filed if it is supported by three (3) persons from the Working Group who have participated in the discussions.</div><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:5px 0px 0px" class="">The appeal must be submitted within two weeks of the public knowledge of the decision. The Appeal Committee shall issue a report on its review of the complaint to the Working Group. The Appeal Committee may direct that the Chair(s) decision be annulled if the Policy Development Process has not been followed.</p></div></div></div><div class="">Therefore, from the foregoing, you erred in logic by appealing an election/selection of Co-Chairs as you mentioned. The CPM says you can only appeal the decisions of the co-chair by discussing with the co-chairs and not discuss their elections with them or appeal their elections. It means we need a co-chair by whatever means as prescribed by the CPM which was fulfilled.(Should i ask, did you discuss the election process with the current or previous co-chairs to fulfill this clause since there was an absence of co-chairs : <span style="background-color:rgb(217,237,247);color:rgb(49,112,143);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class="">A person who disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s) shall discuss the matter with the PDWG Chair(s)</span><span style="background-color:rgb(217,237,247);color:rgb(49,112,143);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class=""> ?</span></div><div class="">In the light of this, I will appeal/advise you to drop what is not logical in reasoning as provisioned in the CPM such as appealing an election process. Also, It will be best for you to be patient for reconstitution of AC which is the prerogative of the board.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank You.</div><div class=""><b class="">Caleb Ogundele</b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 3:16 PM Taiwo Oye <<a href="mailto:taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">taiwo.oyewande88@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">Dear all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My question is what happens to the existing appeals. </div><div class="">How do we move forward on the appeal on the “transfer policy” as well as the pending appeal on the “co-chairs election/ selection”. </div><div class="">This are issues that should be clearly addressed while announcing the dissolve of the said committee<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jul 11, 2021, at 23:53, Ibeanusi Elvis <<a href="mailto:ibeanusielvis@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ibeanusielvis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hello AFRINIC Board, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This clearly infers to excessive abuse of power by the AFRINIC Board. I am in support with the shared ideology that the Board cannot just make such drastic decisions without following the full procedures as outlined in the PDP.</div><div class="">The Appeal Committee still has ongoing appeals to conduct and to handle, and this unanticipated, questionable dissolution by the Board shows a disregard of the PDP and what it stands for. </div><div class="">Sincerely, I am not surprised by this event by the AFRINIC Board based of the fact that such occurrences which had the Board wielding and utilizing their power excessively and abusively has been on a repetitive mood.</div><div class="">This issue not only needs to be addressed but also, such instances should not be allowed to repeat itself again. </div><div class="">Just my opinion. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards, </div><div class="">Elvis.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:34, Mimi dy <<a href="mailto:dym5328@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">dym5328@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hello,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am quite surprised to see that AFRINIC is resorting to such drastic measures, like AC dissolution, just to avoid handling a couple of appeals that have been submitted. The CPM clearly states that appeals MUST be considered and the matter should be investigated properly by the AC. Nonetheless, instead of looking into the raised issues and providing an "appropriate assessment" of the policies, AFRINIC is undoubtedly delaying/ refusing to investigate, which threatens the very core of this community and internet governance: CONSENSUS.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please keep in mind that the policies under appeal, should NOT be ratified until the AC announces their assessment results.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le dim. 11 juil. 2021 à 18:14, Christian Orozco <<a href="mailto:chresgoro@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">chresgoro@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Emem,<br class=""><br class="">Indeed! We share the same observation. This lack of action towards the complications of the dissolution is quite alarming. As time passes by with AFRINIC's failure to work on these issues, more and more users will be disadvantaged. More so, the call for transparency has been constantly growing. It should not even be a "call" (or be demanded) since transparency needs to be practiced automatically and without question. The recent decisions from the Board and the associated absence of urgency seem to contradict one of the core values of AFRINIC: <i class="">integrity</i>.<br class=""><br class="">To AFRINIC, as one of the many concerned internet users, <u class="">it is of utmost interest to hear from you addressing this crucial matter</u>. Thank you!<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Respectfully,<br class="">Christian</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 9:17 PM Emem William <<a href="mailto:dwizard65@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">dwizard65@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Dear AFRNIC board,</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Please are you aware that this appeal committee has to finish the appeals they have at hand before you can dissolve them?</div><div dir="auto" class="">Are you not also worried that you're gradually turning urself into the alfa and omega of AFRINIC? </div><div dir="auto" class="">You declared the co-chairs under a questionable circumstance now you want to have a complete influence on the appeals.</div><div dir="auto" class="">We need to close shop now cos there is no more PDP. It's now Boardchair's PDP.</div><div dir="auto" class="">... just my candid observation.</div><br class=""><div class="">Regards,<br class="">Emem William<br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 18:05 Dr Paulos Nyirenda <<a href="mailto:paulos@sdnp.org.mw" target="_blank" class="">paulos@sdnp.org.mw</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 9 Jul 2021 at 1:48, <a href="mailto:chair@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">chair@afrinic.net</a> wrote:<br class="">
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> Dear Dr Nyirenda,<br class="">
> <br class="">
> The Board at its meeting held on 08 July 2021 resolved, inter-alia, to<br class="">
> revoke the existing Appeal Committee Terms of Reference and further<br class="">
> resolved to replace same with a new Terms of Reference which will soon<br class="">
> be published on AFRINIC's website.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> As a consequence of the above, kindly note that the Appeal Committee<br class="">
> that was reconstituted by the Board on 14 April 2021 has thus been<br class="">
> dissolved and I seize this opportunity to thank you for your voluntary<br class="">
> work and time that you have so far put in for AFRINIC, and we are sure<br class="">
> you will continue to be involved with the AFRINIC community and the<br class="">
> sustainable development of the Internet on our continent.<br class="">
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To: Paulos Nyirenda <<a href="mailto:paulos@sdnp.org.mw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">paulos@sdnp.org.mw</a>><br class="">
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> Dear Dr Nyirenda,<br class="">
> <br class="">
> The Board at its meeting held on 08 July 2021 resolved, inter-alia, to<br class="">
> revoke the existing Appeal Committee Terms of Reference and further<br class="">
> resolved to replace same with a new Terms of Reference which will soon<br class="">
> be published on AFRINIC's website.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> As a consequence of the above, kindly note that the Appeal Committee<br class="">
> that was reconstituted by the Board on 14 April 2021 has thus been<br class="">
> dissolved and I seize this opportunity to thank you for your voluntary<br class="">
> work and time that you have so far put in for AFRINIC, and we are sure<br class="">
> you will continue to be involved with the AFRINIC community and the<br class="">
> sustainable development of the Internet on our continent.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Regards,<br class="">
> S. Moonesamy<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Board Chair, AFRINIC<br class="">
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