<div dir="auto">Hello Eddy,<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for taking the time to reply.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For clarity, I do not understand the need based comment?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I was reading the CPM and the need parts are either the allocation request from an LIR to AFRINIC.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">AFRINIC then reviews the current usage and issues a new allocation or not.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Also, asignments and sub-allocations made by an LIR to its own customers based on the LIR's understanding and own internal evaluation.</div><div dir="auto">That information is then used for the new allocation request by AFRINIC and AFRINIC staff decides if the new allocation is really needed.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Or</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Assignments to end-users made directly by AFRINIC.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There are also mentions of need for ASN and IPv6.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I apologize in advance for all the questions if it is all clear for others but for me this is all a bit new and confusing.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So the following came to mind:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1)</div><div dir="auto">Is AFRINIC re-evaluating allocations made to members and taking back address space, when it is decided the assignments are invalid or inflated even when no new allocation request is made?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2) How many members are currently targeted by such retro active allocation evaluation, if any (I may have misunderstood the discussion at hand)?</div><div dir="auto">Is this something that was always done or is it new?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">3) Has any limits been set on what and how to recover? </div><div dir="auto">Say a member with a /22 only uses a /23 worth of space will you leave them the /23 and take back the rest?</div><div dir="auto">How long does it need to be unused or badly used before it can be recovered?</div><div dir="auto">If the /23 worth of space is not contiguous, will you fragment the space or request renumbering to avoid creating new routes?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">4) Is only IPv4 targeted, or the same is being done to ASNs and IPv6?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">5) Are end-users who received direct assignments from AFRINIC also being targeted?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">6) The above, if true, cannot be backed up by any reading of the CPM. </div><div dir="auto">Would it be possible for AFRINIC as an organization or at least someone who works there to actually submit policy proposals to the community so that we as a community can approve or disapprove officially of certain internal practice and procedures so we can have a say on them as part of the CPM?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kind regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Anthony</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 7:07 AM Eddy Kayihura <<a href="mailto:eddy@afrinic.net">eddy@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><p dir="ltr" id="m_225132735982069600docs-internal-guid-017c2e19-7fff-a870-cda3-9bfc40c671bf" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Mr Wollner,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">I refer to your email dated 24 June 2021.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Questions 1 to 3 were addressed during the open mic session held on 4 June 2021 and we undertook an action to organise a webinar within 2 months to discuss with the community the definition of “need-based” in the AFRINIC policies and bylaws.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We are delighted to see that the discussion amongst the community has already started.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Regarding question 4, we cannot penalise a staff member unless we find concrete proof of their involvement in the misappropriation of the IP resources. As of now, we do not have such evidence on any of AFRINIC’s current staff members. </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The appropriate channel for such inquiry or complaint is to submit it via our </span><a href="https://afrinic.net/whistleblowing" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-skip:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Whistleblowing</span></a><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> platform. </span></span></p><div><br></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Regards,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Eddy Kayihura</span></p><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Chief Executive Officer,</span></div><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)</span></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">…………………………………………………….</span></p><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">M. Wollner,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Je me réfère à votre courriel du 24 juin 2021.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Les questions 1 à 3 ont été abordées lors de la session 'open mic' qui s'est tenue le 4 juin 2021 et nous avons entrepris une action visant à organiser un webinaire dans un délai de 2 mois afin de discuter avec la communauté de la définition de "need-based" dans les politiques et les statuts d'AFRINIC.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Nous sommes ravis de voir que la discussion au sein de la communauté a déjà commencé.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">En ce qui concerne la question 4, nous ne pouvons pas pénaliser un membre du personnel à moins de trouver des preuves concrètes de son implication dans la manipulation non autorisée des ressources IP. A ce jour, nous n'avons pas de telles preuves sur aucun des membres actuels du personnel d'AFRINIC.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:9pt;margin-bottom:9pt"><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Le canal approprié pour une telle requête ou plainte est de la soumettre via notre plateforme de </span><a href="https://afrinic.net/whistleblowing" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-skip:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">whistleblowing</span></a><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">.</span></span></p><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Cordialement,</span></div><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Eddy Kayihura</span></div><div style="line-height:2.1599999999999997;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:14px">Directeur général,</span></div><span style="font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;text-align:justify">African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)</span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><br><div>
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