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    <p>Dear Chairs</p>
    <p>I ask you to re-think this decision due the following reasons:</p>
    <p>1 - The Appeal Committee is not working at the moment which means
      the last part of this process in this forum will be on hold
      indeterminately. They have stated this recently and since then
      Board, who is in charge to organize to re-compose the Appeal
      Committe has not said anything to my knowledge so far.</p>
    <p>2 - Even if the Appeal Committee was working they would need to
      accept or not this appeal and *then* the Board should delay the
      ratification until a decision from the AC. It doesn't make much
      sense to suspend the declaration of consensus during the final
      call just because an appeal has been filled in hurry and without
      much consideration to the process.</p>
    <p>3 - The appeal seems to not have followed the minimum that is
      required by the CPM and Appeal Committee needs to evaluate in
      first instance if they will accept this appeal or not even analyze
      them.</p>
    <p>4 - The last call is aimed for final comments that could point to
      critical scenarios where some problem or strong objection wasn't
      found before and if it's the case for the authors to address them.
      If during this period no new objections have been raised or have
      been addressed and resolved the consensus should take its natural
      path and be confirmed. Then anyone dissatisfied is in its right to
      fill an appeal against that decision before the Board
      ratification.<br>
      <br>
      Regards<br>
      Fernando<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/06/2021 18:17, PDWG Chair wrote:<br>
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We refer to the appeal that has been lodged against the decision of the AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chairs in respect of the policy proposal bearing the name ‘Abuse Contact Policy Update’  and ID [AFPUB-2018-GEN-001-DRAFT07].</span></p>
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In order to allow the Appeal Committee to perform its duty without any influence from discussions being held on the present mailing list, we consider it appropriate to suspend all deliberations on this draft policy proposal pending the outcome of the appeal.</span></p>
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Regards,</span></p>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/06/2021 17:04, PDWG Chair
        wrote:<br>
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        <p>Dear PDWG,</p>
        <p>Following the commencement of the Last Call period on 5th
          June 2021, we have noted some concerns that have been raised
          by some members of the PDWG. As Co-Chairs, and following a
          review and analysis of the responses, we have concluded that
          all the concerns raised have been adequately addressed by
          either the author of this policy proposal, or by other members
          of the PDWG.</p>
        <p>We therefore encourage participants to engage in, and pursue,
          any editorial changes to the policy proposal as well as any
          contentious issues that are objective and founded on proper
          justifications.</p>
        <p>We also remind the community to adhere to the AfriNIC Code of
          Conduct (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="https://www.afrinic.net/code" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.afrinic.net/code</a>)
          in order to ensure that our deliberations remain professional,
          respectful and appropriate at all times.</p>
        <p>Finally, we wish to inform the PDWG that the Last Call period
          closes on 19th June 2021 at 2359UTC.</p>
        Regards,<br>
        Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa<br>
        AFRINIC PDWG CO-Chairs<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/06/2021 13:29, JORDI PALET
          MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">Hi Mimi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">Can you justify why is poorly placed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">AFRINIC existing abuse policy is not
                mandatory, and it has been demonstrated by staff
                provided data, that, as a consequence, it doesn’t work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">The proposal also allow multiple channels,
                is not stating that you don’t have further data such as
                phone or whatever, it is just mandating to have at least
                email. So, the “two-channels” that you mention are still
                possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">Personal data is not allowed in Mauritius,
                so all the channels must take that in consideration, and
                the proposal allows that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                lang="EN-US">It is simple and in fact, there are
                open-source tools, such as fail2ban, that can handle the
                automation and provide multiple channels automatically.
                For example, you could call up to send an automated
                response in first place that explains the one submitting
                the report that you handle automatically (and
                consequently much faster) cases submitted according to a
                standard format such as X-ARF/RFC5965/RFC6650. Then you
                can try to parse the data if other formats are used and
                if that’s not possible, an alternative automated email
                could tell the reporter that a manual handling is
                required and create a ticket, contact him by email or
                other channels, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">Note that all this is something that each
                network can freely decide (so internal operational
                details), and still comply with the proposal and
                definitively will help all the parties, but all that
                need a framework, as set by this proposal, to ensure
                that the email is working.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">And,
                  no it doesn’t create a duplicate CPM content, because
                  basically the one that we have is not useful at all,
                  so we need to improve it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">The
                  basis of the PDP is to evolve as we learn. If we try
                  to use the excuse of “we already have something in the
                  CPM for that”, then we will never have a better CPM
                  and learnings along the time will be wasted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                  lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                  lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                  lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El
                  7/6/21 23:43, "Mimi dy" <<a
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                  escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="color:black" lang="EN-IN">Hi everyone,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"
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                  style="color:black" lang="EN-IN">Since the PDWG
                  co-chairs announced the official start of the last
                  call period for the <b>Abuse Contact Policy, </b>I
                  find it essential to call out the community, so they
                  become aware of the limitations of the proposed
                  policy, which unfortunately, reached rough consensus.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="color:black" lang="EN-IN">To some extent, some
                  people might think that the proposed policy makes
                  sense and can see potential in improving the service
                  quality of AFRINIC, by providing functional abuse-c
                  information, increasing accountability among
                  resource-holders, offering an appropriate platform/
                  contact for complainants to submit their complaints
                  and reducing the related expenditure. Nonetheless, I
                  simply do not agree with it, why? Because its pillars
                  are poorly placed, and more importantly, AFRINIC’s
                  existing abuse contact information policy is
                  sufficient and very well-designed. To emphasize and
                  clarify my point of view, the existence of two
                  channels or abuse contacts is highly efficient. The
                  automated mailbox can manage recurrent and frequent
                  complaints, by providing automatic solutions and
                  direct answers already incorporated in their database.
                  On the other hand, the personal communication contact
                  can handle much more complex complaints, requiring
                  human intervention to suggest solutions or further
                  actions. Consequently, I am convinced that both
                  channels are of extreme necessity in handling abuse
                  complaints and providing victims with diverse ways to
                  deal with unfortunate situations. Also, we cannot deny
                  that it saves AFRINIC’s efforts trying to create an
                  abuse-c attribute all over again, and it prevents the
                  members’ from wasting precious time developing useless
                  policies, that are only a duplicate of the CPM
                  policies, and initiating the long procedures of
                  approval and ratification.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="color:black" lang="EN-IN">I wish that, during
                  this last call period, more members will contest the
                  rough consensus that this policy reached, based on
                  what I logically maintained above.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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