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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ni Mimi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>No, is not ideological, the legal counsel already confirmed the being bookkeepers has many other *<b>related</b>* implications, such as provide a trustable source of accurate data, and this is what RPKI and AS0 improve.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The fact that in RIPE has not been accepted yet is just one more excuse, if you compare it with the fact that the other TWO RIRs where it has been submitted (APNIC and LACNIC) accepted it and in none of those regions there have been any of the excuses and lack of knowledge about RPKI that we are hearing here. As I’ve explained already, I don’t think the RIPE chairs decision was correct, and we will make sure to resubmit the proposal there once a consistent appeal process is available, in case chairs take again a wrong decision. Also, then the experience in APNIC, LACNIC and AFRINIC will show that those motivations are ridiculous.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>From time to time is good that ARIN and RIPE aren’t the leaders, you don’t think so? It shows that very smart people exist in other regions as well!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Once more, sometimes policies in one or the other region fail to reach consensus, but it happens sooner or later.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If you have a simple and trustable tool such as RPKI to drop invalids, you have a better way (if you want) to avoid bad actors to use prefixes that don’t belong to them as they are still on the hands of AFRINIC. This is just facts. Not ideological, not opinions or personal view points. So yes, AS0 avoids, if you operate your network in a consistent way, to be faked with prefixes not allocated/assigned by AFRINIC, and thus helps to prevent hijacking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 7/6/21 18:47, "Mimi dy" <<a href="mailto:dym5328@gmail.com">dym5328@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-IN>Dear WG,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-IN> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-IN>I think the issue here is ideological. Many people believe that RIRs are mere bookkeepers, and it is not in their mandate to inject data into the routing database. That is the reason why RIPE did not approve a similar proposal, which I totally agree with. Moreover, I wanted to react to Jordi’s statement, saying that these objections are based on practical and technical matters. There is not only one routing database, there are many, isn’t it kind of messy? And that is not even the main reason why I object to this policy. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-IN>From another perspective, since people can adjust and control their routers, can you precise how this policy can potentially prevent/ reduce hijacking?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-IN> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt;line-height:106%'><span lang=EN-IN>Best.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list RPD@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd <o:p></o:p></p></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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