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<p>If there is a problem to understand how this policy prevents
hijacking then there is a fundamental problem to understand how
RPKI and ASN0 ROAs work.</p>
<p>RIR mission goes beyond just register and allocate number
resources, just read section 3 of Afrinic bylaws. Need to stop
saying these type of simplifications.<br>
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In any way AfriNic will no "inject data" that is not due. It
already manages and runs a RPKI TA that any organization can <b>optionally
use</b> in order to eliminate the effects of hijacking. This
policy only allows AfriNic to add information about the unused
resources <b>under its responsability</b> in order to let others
know and use this information as necessary.<br>
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<p>Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/06/2021 14:24, aziz halim wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">+1 Anthony. </div>
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<div dir="auto">I’d also like to add that this policy should go
back to discussion for the simple reason that it completely
misreads the main role of RIRs. More precisely, and as many
individuals have commented on the PPM, RIRs have nothing to do
with the resource routing process, it is safe to say that it
is totally out of their mandate scope. Their one and only
mission is to properly register and allocate number resources
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<div dir="auto">Correspondingly, the implementation of this
policy will increase the chances of committing routing errors,
which can potentially hinder network functioning. In fact,
AFRINIC staff has a history in committing such technical
mistakes, jeopardizing networks. It is simply not in AFRINIC’s
mandate to inject data into the routing database. Plus, the
following concern that has been raised during the meeting
still remains unaddressed : how does this policy prevents
hijacking as it’s intended to do ?</div>
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Anthony Ubah <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com"
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<div>Regarding this policy, I didn't throw my weight on it
for one reason. There is a gray area which requires
clarity and may turn around to hunt service providers and
resource owner in the long run. </div>
<div>I directed a question to the Legal team at the hearing
of this policy, multiple times, and it was
inexplicably ignored by Jordi, the Co-chairs and perhaps
the legal team, and I still sought clarity on it. </div>
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<div>My question remains; In a situation where, due to human
or machine error AS0 is injected by AFRINIC on already
assigned resources, and expectedly this result in service
disconnection, thus DOS, causing an SLA breach with
service end users. <b>Who bears the final brunt for the
consequences (e.g.poor QoS, fines, revenue cut, and loss
of customers), Afrinic or resource owner?</b></div>
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<div>I still insist this policy isn't ripe, because;</div>
<div>1. The Legal team must include this on the impact
assessment, clearly stating responsibility for liability.</div>
<div>2. The policy must include text stating these policies
and mitigation plans.</div>
<div>3. Since it has become a trend to follow other RIRs,
why do you think most have rejected this policy so far?</div>
<div>4. How did the RIRs who have adopted this policy
tackled this scenario legally?</div>
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<div
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<div
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">This is to announce the official start of the last call period for the following policy proposal (in line with the provisions of the CPM):</span></div>
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<div
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<div
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">URL: </span><a
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rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-gen-006-d3</span></a></div>
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<div
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