<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Marcus,<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sshhhhhhh … They might hear you! </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The silence is a welcome gift. Am hoping this will spur the industry veterans on the list to speak out more often and guide us where we are lacking. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Murungi Daniel</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 10, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" class="">madomey@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="">I am surprised that the list is quiet after rfc 7282 was mentioned which show the way to do the ‘work’ by consensus
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<div class="">In the past we were loud and created confusion, lack of understanding of the real ‘work’ by consensus...</div>
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<div class="">I found this very instructive </div>
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<div class=""> ⁃ 10 people against and 200 people in favor might not be rough consensus</div>
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<div class=""> ⁃ 200 people against and 10 people in favor might still be rough consensus</div>
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<div class="">Now that we don’t count “I support” and “I oppose “ without reason, no wonder the place is quiet like a graveyard?</div>
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<div class="">Good luck to Africa</div>
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<b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, May 7, 2021 10:02:02 AM<br class="">
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<b class="">Cc:</b> Policy Development Working Group <<a href="mailto:pdwg@afrinic.net" class="">pdwg@afrinic.net</a>>; <a href="mailto:pdwg-chairs-request@afrinic.net" class="">pdwg-chairs-request@afrinic.net</a> <<a href="mailto:pdwg-chairs-request@afrinic.net" class="">pdwg-chairs-request@afrinic.net</a>>; rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">Hi PDWG</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Thanks Arnaud for summarizing rfc7282 and pointing to what we shall be doing regarding policy discussions.</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">While achieving rough consensus as described here may look as a difficult exercise, I think that some elements can make the journey practical:</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">1. Clear definition of problem statement.</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">2. Clear expression of the proposed solution to the problem.</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">3. Clear analysis of the pros and cons of the solution.</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">This coupled with a good moderation of issues oriented discussions on the acceptance of the problem statement and also on the merits of the solution, would definitely help achieve rough consensus on moving forward or rejecting proposals with
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<div dir="auto" class="">Cheers</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Sat, 1 May 2021, 19:22 Arnaud AMELINA, <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" class="">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div dir="auto" class=""> I saw cochairs mentioned rfc 7282....</div>
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<div dir="auto" class=""> ⁃ Consensus is the path not the destination</div>
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<div dir="auto" class=""> ⁃ Rough consensus is achieved when all issues have been addressed and not necessary accommodated</div>
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<div dir="auto" class=""> ⁃ The lack of disagreement is more important than agreement </div>
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<div dir="auto" class=""> ⁃ 200 people against and 10 people in favor might still be rough consensus</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Rough consensus and not unanimity or full consensus In discussing and adopting policies and best practices which are technically sound and serve the interest of the region.</div>
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<div class="">First, we would like to thank the community for entrusting us with this core role and responsibility. Indeed, we express our commitment to ensuring adherence to the CPM and the PDP, and to bringing back decorum in the deliberations of the PDWG.</div>
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<div class="">As you may have noticed from a previous email, we are currently analyzing the discussions on the current 12 DPPs. This includes preparing a report on the two (2) DPPs that were said to have achieved rough consensus, but which are currently under appeal.</div>
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<div class="">While the CPM will serve as the core guide in our work and the community’s deliberations, we remind the community to adhere to the AfriNIC Code of Conduct (<a href="https://v2.afrinic.net/en/community/code-of-conduct" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://v2.afrinic.net/en/community/code-of-conduct</a>).
This will ensure that deliberations remain professional, respectful and appropriate at all times.</div>
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<div class="">As the community is aware, PDWG decisions are consensus-driven, with the intention being to ensure that any objections and/or concerns raised during policy discussions are either addressed or resolved adequately. As Co-Chairs, we subscribe to RFC 7282
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<div class="">We expect to have our initial analysis concluded in the first week of May 2021 after which we will engage the community accordingly. This will also enable us to progress with the preparations for our next PPM which is scheduled for June 2021.</div>
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<div class="">In the meantime, we acknowledge that an appeal has been submitted against the confirmation of consensus on our selection as Co-Chairs. The outcome of the appeal and deliberations thereafter which inform our work going forward.</div>
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<div class="">We look forward to a better AfriNIC for all of us.</div>
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