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<p>Dear Jordi.</p>
<p>I am a man of reason. But, I don't appreciate being cajoled. I
agree that we could have, from onset agree that we are selecting
new co-chairs to start on a clean slate. I disagree with the
statement that they are completing a tenure and in the same vein
mutating to start a new tenure.</p>
<p>If you will recall, for emphasis sake, I suggested that what we
are doing should be on a clean slate, however it was ignored.
Surprisingly, it was suddenly introduced after the selections was
done. <b>That is my grouse</b>.</p>
<p>My suggestion is that the Board and AfriNIC Secretariat should
re-frame their affirmation and summaries to capture that the PWDG
had selected two co-chairs on a consensus to start new tenure.
This is on the condition that the records shows that this was what
actually transpired.</p>
<p>Adding to the learning: We must be consistent and implicit always
with our intentions and goals.</p>
<p><br>
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<p>Simply</p>
<p>Daniel<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/04/2021 4:31 pm, JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Hi Daniel,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">From a realistic and practical standpoint, do
you think it makes sense to have selected co-chairs for the
next PPM and at the same time start a new selection, that
takes a lot of resources, and makes difficult to keep
discussing policy proposals in the list, which are much
needed after the horrible decisions taken in the last two
years?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Just look at the number of policy proposals and
how badly the lack of consensus decision for non-justified
objections, ruined them. Even if you agree/disagree with
those decisions, just read carefully the recall results, and
read also the Appeal Committee minutes, and look to how two
different of groups of people can clash in the
interpretation of the PDP, including the point that the AC
believes that the judgment needs to be done only which what
happen in the meeting, while always we have been told that
the list is part of the decision …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Further to that, if there have been no other
qualified candidates now, do you think they will magically
appear in the next month, for a new selection?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Do you think that if some candidates clearly
attempted to commit fraud (by themselves or whom brokered
their nomination), should be allowed to participate as
candidates again?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">What about the “new” increase in subscriptions
to the list from the same residential IP addresses? How many
folks in each household, you can believe to be participating
with knowledge at the PDP discussions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I think there are sufficient arguments to
ensure that there is at least 2 years of stability and
healing, at least until we can define a better way to handle
the elections and AFRINIC can ensure that 1 participant is
only 1 email and not being used as puppets.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I’m sorry if this email can look as a bit
“aggressive”, it not that my intent, I just want to be
honest and crystal clear, as usually, but much more now,
when the selection done by the PDWG is being discussed
repeatedly every other hour.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 12/4/21
17:12, "Daniel Yakmut via RPD" <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dear Noah,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">I am only saying we must be
cautious at responding to each others opinions, without being
seen to be arrogant about it. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">However, you will note my angst is
against the fact we are extending the tenure of the Co-chairs
midway. Clearly, the guidelines and timelines was specific
that we were taken action to bring on board 2 Co-chairs to <b>"complete
the tenure of recalled co-chairs". </b>How do you explain
the allocation/arrogation of one-year and two-year tenure when
the new co-chairs emerged.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">If I will say, was there no
deception? I am led to conclude that if the two selected
persons were not the ones that made it to the end, tenure
extension would not have been muted. For the records I will
not support illegality.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Simply,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Daniel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On 12/04/2021
2:49 pm, Noah wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hi Daniel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I have
never presumed anyone is stupid. I am a Christian and no
human created by the Almight God is stupid, but some can
be foolish and have seen enough foolishness going on
herein. Like your name sake Daniel submitted the other
day, this is the RPD list and the PDWG and not Facebook
or Twitter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Let us
call a spade a spade and I will not bullshit around.....
the selected co-Chairs can moderate me if I have crossed
the line but we can't continue playing games and wasting
each other's time as working group participants. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">We all
agreed to the timelines the secretariat shared with this
WG in terms of selecting new co-chairs, criteria were
deliberated and we were all involved including some of
the candidates that applied to be considered for the
role. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">1. Some
candidates like Antony and Widjane were disqualified
after their own nominators in their initial application
declined the nomination. This is a serious concern imho
because nominators must be folks known to a person.
Those applications had motivations written, obviously
not by the nominator but someone else therefore they are
forgeries. A resource member then attempted to
re-nominate both of them days past the deadline. Both
ought to take some lessons and the needed experience
going forward.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">2. There
was another nomination that the nominee declined, that
is, our former co-chair Abdulkarim. The brother
indicated that he would be very busy attending to other
things in the coming days and months....hence dropped
out of the race.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">3. Then
there was Elvis, who lacked a resource member to second
his nomination. The brothers CV speaks louder as he
literally lacks the experience and required technical
knowledge based on his own CV to manage this PDWG. The
PDWG and its PDP focus on Internet Number Resources
policies and not liberal arts, language and political
science. I refer you to his CV specifically the
experience section.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">4. In the
past days and weeks, the PDWG across the board
participated in selecting new co-Chairs in line with the
timelines that the secretariat indicated, so that we can
have managers to lead the PPM in the coming months.
Considering 1., 2., and .3, above, most participants
settled for Vincent and Darwin whose nominators and
seconders are resource members and confirmed to have
nominated and seconded them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">You claim
you are trying to correct misnomers, and among those
corrections is to have the WG spend a great deal of its
time with another co-Chair selection after the
conclusion of an open, transparent selection process
that has had this WG spend weeks working on acceptable
criteria, guidelines, the nominations and eventually the
consensus based selection process.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I have
listened to you and am suggesting that, If anything, we
are all taking lessons and we shall improve the process
through this very avenue of the PDP but let's stop with
the nonsense. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Noah<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Mon,
Apr 12, 2021 at 1:32 PM Daniel Yakmut <<a
href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dear Noah, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">You don't cease to amaze
me, when you write or talk you presume everyone
around you is stupid and you are the smart one. I
can clearly see that you are too full of yourself
and this make you write the way you do.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Here we are trying to
correct misnomers and you are busy writing
gibberish. I don't waste people's time though I live
in the AFRINIC REGION nor do I contradict myself in
any form. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">However, when one has
taken the course of being a Despot, he doesn't
listen nor understand what others are saying.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Simply,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Daniel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On
11/04/2021 8:40 pm, Noah wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Sun, Apr 11,
2021 at 6:19 PM Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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For transparency sake <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">What are you even
talking about? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">and for posterity
too, we must conduct another <br>
exercise to select/elect co-chairs. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">Of course with
endless obsessions over co-Chair elections
instead of focusing on Policy Development
Work.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">I wouldn't mine
if the exercise <br>
reproduce the same persons again. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">Are you even
listening to yourself....I mean, If there is
anything we do best in the AFRINIC region,
it is to waste everyone's time with all
sorts of contradictions and we are really
good at that crap.<o:p></o:p></p>
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