<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Hello all, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Feel free to correct, but from what I could understand, Wijdane and Anthony didn't know that their nominator had problems, and then Paul had cleared it up after the date for nominations had expired.. isn't it a bit unfair to disqualify them so immediately? I mean, they were expecting that they are qualified (the seconder issue notwithstanding) but they didn't know that the nominator had issues (one that the nominator corrected and explained albeit belatedly) so they couldn't have done anything to help correct the mistake. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You all raised good points, so I request you consider this angle too before we as a WG rush into hasty decisions. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 9, 2021, 3:52 PM Mirriam via RPD, <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir="ltr">Hi Jaco,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I strongly agree with the above. Both Vincent and Darwin have requisite knowledge and qualification for the job. They are very well suited for the task.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Mirriam.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div>
        
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                    On Thursday, April 8, 2021, 7:19:19 PM GMT+3, Jaco Kroon <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jaco@uls.co.za</a>> wrote:
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    <p>Hi All,</p>
    <p>Given that we've repeatedly stated that there should be a
      nominator and a seconder for all nominations, this means we only
      really received 3 nominations (3,4,5 below).</p>
    <p>Given that Abulkarim (4) was one of the co-chairs removed by the
      recall committee, and there has been controversy around the
      previous co-chairs, in my opinion we only really have two
      candidates.</p>
    <p>And both of these candidates seems to be good choices.  From
      Vincent's (3) nomination, by Barry:</p>
    <p>"Vincent is an outstanding person for the PDWG as he was the
      first co-chair of the same back in the days. we need to bring back
      the fundamental values and hence i nominate him"</p>
    <p>I could not agree more about bringing back the fundamentals, and
      plainly Vincent has experience in a co-chair position that we
      desperately need at this point in time.<br clear="none">
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    <p>Regarding Darwin (5), I've gone back and read a fair number of
      his emails over the last year or so, and Darwin in my opinion has
      a level head, the ability to reason and understand as well.  I
      could not find a single example of him being involved personally
      in a controversy in spite of him providing his opinion on a number
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    <p>I would thus like to make two proposals.</p>
    <p>1.  We select the two candidates as above, in my opinion with
      Vincent in the two-year tenure and Darwin in the one year tenure. 
      By consensus if possible.</p>
    <p>2.  Given that the next meeting is two months from now, I would
      like to propose that we measure these tenures as from "this year"
      such that the effective tenures will be one and two years
      respectively from now, and not "puppet" and "one year"
      effectively.</p>
    <p>Kind Regards,<br clear="none">
      Jaco</p><div id="m_3217538677563753801yiv0275219696yqtfd93036"><br clear="none">
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    On 2021/04/08 16:26, AFRINIC Policy Liaison wrote:<br clear="none">
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          </b><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;white-space:pre-wrap">Dear Colleagues</span></p>
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          <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;white-space:pre-wrap">As mentioned in our email on 7 April 2021, AFRINIC as Secretariat had started the process of contacting the nominators that were mentioned in the nomination forms of the candidates .  The update feedback received is as follows:-</span></p>
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