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<p>I fully support Jaco's proposal and Mark's email below</p>
<p>Fernando Frediani<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/04/2021 14:56, Mark Elkins wrote:<br>
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<p>I really, really like this idea - especially the consensus
part... and also as it seems we only have two truly suitable
candidates.<br>
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<p><i>1. We select the two candidates as above, in my opinion
with Vincent in the two-year tenure and Darwin in the one
year tenure. By consensus if possible.</i></p>
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<p>I have individually asked both Vincent and Darwin whether they
would be agreeable to this and they both stated <b>Yes </b>as
per above.<br>
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<p><i> 2. Given that the next meeting is two months from
now, I would like to propose that we measure these<br>
tenures as from "this year" such that the effective
tenures will be one and two years respectively from now,...</i><br>
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<p>I also agree with this - I don't want a repeat of all this in
two months time.</p>
<p>I don't expect full consensus - I honestly expect between 4 and
10 people to say No, and to repeat that several times. I would
though love to see masses of support for this. This will save
quite a bit of time (and money).. and allow us all to proceed
fairly quickly with new Co-Chairs - and back to a level of
sanity!<br>
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<p>Please can we sort this out by <b>Reasonable Consensus!</b><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/8/21 6:16 PM, Jaco Kroon wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>Given that we've repeatedly stated that there should be a
nominator and a seconder for all nominations, this means we
only really received 3 nominations (3,4,5 below).</p>
<p>Given that Abulkarim (4) was one of the co-chairs removed by
the recall committee, and there has been controversy around
the previous co-chairs, in my opinion we only really have two
candidates.</p>
<p>And both of these candidates seems to be good choices. From
Vincent's (3) nomination, by Barry:</p>
<p>"Vincent is an outstanding person for the PDWG as he was the
first co-chair of the same back in the days. we need to bring
back the fundamental values and hence i nominate him"</p>
<p>I could not agree more about bringing back the fundamentals,
and plainly Vincent has experience in a co-chair position that
we desperately need at this point in time.<br>
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<p>Regarding Darwin (5), I've gone back and read a fair number
of his emails over the last year or so, and Darwin in my
opinion has a level head, the ability to reason and understand
as well. I could not find a single example of him being
involved personally in a controversy in spite of him providing
his opinion on a number of topics.<br>
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<p>I would thus like to make two proposals.</p>
<p>1. We select the two candidates as above, in my opinion with
Vincent in the two-year tenure and Darwin in the one year
tenure. By consensus if possible.</p>
<p>2. Given that the next meeting is two months from now, I
would like to propose that we measure these tenures as from
"this year" such that the effective tenures will be one and
two years respectively from now, and not "puppet" and "one
year" effectively.</p>
<p>Kind Regards,<br>
Jaco<br>
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On 2021/04/08 16:26, AFRINIC Policy Liaison wrote:<br>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">As mentioned in our email on 7 April 2021, AFRINIC as Secretariat had started the process of contacting the nominators that were mentioned in the nomination forms of the candidates . The update feedback received is as follows:-</span></p>
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<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Darwin da Costa - Both nominator & Seconder approved as per email received</span></p></li>
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