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    <p>Thank you Eddy.</p>
    <p>I agree with you.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/8/21 11:05 AM, Eddy Kayihura
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">[French
            Below]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">Dear PDWG,</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black"> </span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old
            Face",serif;color:#1D1C1D;background:#F8F8F8">I have
            been reading your exchanges with much interest and </span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old
            Face",serif;color:black">allow me to share my thoughts
            on the matter here.</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black"> </span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">I trust the previous
            Co-chairs to be men of their words.</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black"> </span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">I trust my team that was
            tasked to investigate the logs and came back empty-handed.</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black"> </span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">I trust myself and my
            fellow Board members who have all confirmed that they have
            not received such an email.</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black"> </span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">I also trust that the PDWG
            realise that there is a process in place that must be
            followed and hiding an email does not derail the process. </span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old
            Face",serif;color:black"> </span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">So, as a constructive way
            forward, I suggest the following:</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black"> </span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">A)    Can the previous
            Co-chairs kindly forward the reports in question to the RPD
            list so that they are on public record?</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">B)   Once the new
            Co-chairs are in place, the PDWG agrees on how to move
            forward with the documents;</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">C)    We go back to
            discussing the issue at hand as indicated by the subject of
            this thread.</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">Eddy Kayihura</span><span
            style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black">CEO AFRINIC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR">#######<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR">Cher PDWG,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR">Je lis avec
            intérêt les divers échanges et permettez-moi de partager mes
            idées sur ce sujet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR">J’ai confiance
            que les anciens Co-chairs tiennent leur parole.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR">J’ai confiance
            en mon équipe qui a analysé les logs et n’y ont rien trouvé.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR">J’ai confiance
            en moi-même et aux mes collègues du Board qui ont tous
            confirmés ne pas avoir reçu cet email.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR">J’ai aussi
            confiance que les PDWG réalise que nous avons des procédures
            en place et que cacher un email ne peut en aucun cas
            dérailler la procédure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR">Je fais donc la
            proposition suivante dans le but d’évoluer  d’une manière
            constructive :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif;color:black" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <ol style="margin-top:0cm" type="A" start="1">
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            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"
              lang="FR">Est-ce que les Co-chairs précédents peuvent
              renvoyer les rapports en questions sur la liste RPD and
              qu’ils deviennent public ?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"
              lang="FR">Des que les nouveaux Co-chairs seront en
              position, le PDWG pourra s’accorder sur la procédure a
              suivre avec ces documents ;<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"
              lang="FR">Nous continuons a discuter sur le sujet qui est
              bien référencé dans le titre de l’email.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif" lang="FR">Cordialement,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif" lang="FR">Eddy Kayihura<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Baskerville
            Old Face",serif" lang="FR">CEO AFRINIC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old
            Face",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="en-MU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old
            Face",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="en-MU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"><rpd@afrinic.net></a> <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 8 April 2021 12:28<br>
                <b>To:</b> rpd <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"><rpd@afrinic.net></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] PDWG Co-Chairs Selection
                pursuant to Section 3.3 of CPM |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">Hi Noah,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">I think we are mixing up things here. Long
            email, but I think is important to understand this thread.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">I was talking “in general”, not about any
            specific policy proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">So, when I say that the chairs can’t judge the
            impact analysis as part of the determination of consensus, I
            mean in “any” policy proposal. The PDP doesn’t state
            anything about that, among other reasons, because that will
            break what it means consensus. Consensus is determined by
            objections of the community. If the community believes that
            the impact analysis is correct, the community can object to
            a policy based on that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">However, the community can also ignore the
            impact analysis, because a) they don’t think is correct, or
            b) they simply decide that it is not a community relevant
            issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">For example, an impact analysis may consider
            that a policy *<b>if implemented</b>* in time frame “x” or
            using method “y”, can be dangerous for the organization.
            However, the community may believe that this is resolved by
            implementing the policy in phases, or “3x”, and/or using
            method “z”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">This can happen because the impact analysis
            comes late (which happened many many many times) and the
            staff has not considered other choices, or just because the
            community discovers a better way to do things than the staff
            (more people, more eyes and brains to look into a problem
            and provide possible solutions). It can also happen because
            the staff is interpreting something in the policy in the
            wrong way and gets clarified in the policy meeting, which
            happened also several times.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">In addition to that, the board could *<b>also</b>*,
            when working in the policy ratification, believe that there
            are alternative ways to do it, or balance between the
            benefits and the cost, etc. In fact, even could happen in
            the other way around: the impact analysis may be “ok” for a
            proposal, reach consensus and later on, the board in the
            ratification find something that is not good.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">To put all this in context, we shall remember
            that a policy doesn’t state, the implementation timing and
            in general, should avoid implementation/operational details,
            but that doesn’t preclude a proposal, authors or community
            to provide inputs or hints on all that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Yes, the
              PDWG should be responsible when evaluating proposals and
              that means *<b>ALSO</b>* to look at the impact analysis
              “with a grain of salt” (and I personally always read and
              discuss the anlysis impact of every proposal as it is very
              helpful). We have the right to disagree or even ignore it.
              The community good doesn’t neccesarily match 100% with the
              organization good, and in terms of policies the community
              decision is *<b>on top</b>* of the organization. The board
              has the right to object if they can justify that. Is part
              of their work. The board members are also community
              members and they could, if they find something really
              “bad”, bring that to the discussion (speaking in their
              personal capacity) before it reaches consensus. I’m
              convinced that nobody has honestly interest to “delay” a
              proposal (either to reach consensus or to not-reach it, or
              to ratify it or to not-ratify it), so as sooner as all the
              points come to the table, much better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">We also
              shall remember that the board could be wrong and their
              decision about a ratification, can also be discussed by
              the organization membership, and that’s why, if this
              happens, the community which includes the membership, can
              always, have the same topic of a policy on the discussion
              table again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">I feel
              that the cases where the board stops a policy should be
              very very very strange, and this is why in the history of
              the 5 RIRs, I recall only a couple of cases. There is
              nothing wrong on that. There should be a good balance
              between community and organization protection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Now,
              coming to the inter-RIR proposal under appeal (and the
              other 2), when each proposal has been presented and in the
              meetings were they have been discussed, I was the first
              one telliing 2 out of 3 of the proposals are
              non-reciprocal, and asked the authors and staff to verify
              with the other RIRs. I was even insulted because I was
              asking that. However finally, when that was done (after 2
              meetings, unfortunatelly, so we lost a LOT of time), the
              conclusion was that I was completely right.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">So this
              proves that the impact analysis of 2 proposals missed a
              key point, because a non-reciprocal policy means that the
              benefit of the inter-RIR transfers is lost. As said before
              an analysis impact is very helpful and we should always
              push for having it ASAP, but we should not take it
              “literally” or as a “must”. In fact in other RIRs, it is *<b>clearly
                stated</b>* in the analysis impact that it is the
              “staff” view and not neccesarily a “final true” or
              “mandatory recommendations” neither for or against the
              proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                lang="ES">El 7/4/21 21:48, "Noah" <<a
                  href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" moz-do-not-send="true">noah@neo.co.tz</a>>
                escribió:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
              lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <div>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES">For your other responses, we can revisit
                  them with a DPP in the near future, however.....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
              lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES">On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:33 PM JORDI PALET
                  MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="ES"> </span><span
                        lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
                        lang="EN-US">in order to protect the Org but
                        what is puzzling to me is co-chairs ignoring not
                        only WG valid objections but also staff impact
                        analysis and forge ahead with a recommendation
                        for ratification of a proposal that would impact
                        the Organization.</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span
                        lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p
                      class="gmail-m8277360860416948725msolistparagraph"
                      style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings"
                        lang="EN-US">è</span><span
                        style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times
                        New Roman",serif" lang="EN-US">    </span><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">I don’t
                        agree here. The chairs can’t judge the impact
                        analysis if the community decides to ignore it </span><span
                        lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            </blockquote>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES">In this case, the community aka the PDWG did
                  not ignore the staff impact analysis. In fact resource
                  members even tasked AFRINIC member services to
                  feedback on the Impact of  e.g the Resource Transfer
                  Proposal. Participants in this working group including
                  myself have repeatedly pointed to the staff impact
                  analysis of the transfer proposals and to a lesser
                  extent the board prerogative proposal. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES">The fact is that a number of members of the
                  PDWG who have participated in the discussions have
                  never ignored the impact analysis which is why some
                  requested the policy liaison to seek further clarity
                  on the valid issues of reciprocity while others tasked
                  the member services to feedback on financial impact to
                  the Org.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            </div>
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                  <div>
                    <p
                      class="gmail-m8277360860416948725msolistparagraph"
                      style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">(or not
                        trust it, or believe is wrong, or whatever).
                        I’ve seen several “wrong” impact analysis in
                        several RIRs, and this is only proved if the
                        policy is allowed to go thru. </span><span
                        lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
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              </div>
            </blockquote>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES">In my case and that of few I know, in fact
                  trust the staff impact analysis to be valid and
                  serious for the case of resource transfer policy and
                  am not sure if folks ever took time to go through the
                  analysis here;  <a
                    href="https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d3#impact"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d3#impact</a>  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
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                    <p
                      class="gmail-m8277360860416948725msolistparagraph"
                      style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">However,
                        if the organization is put in risk, that’s why
                        the PDP should ensure that the board has the
                        prerogative to justify the “no ratification and
                        return to the PDWG”.</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES">Why wait for the organization to be put at
                  risk yet members of the PDWG are already anticipating
                  risks from the said proposals. I would rather the PDWG
                  resolved the risks of the proposal taking into
                  consideration that valid objections and staff impact
                  analysis issues have been addressed before the WG
                  managers can send the proposal to the board for
                  ratification with a full blessing of the entire WG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES">We have to be a responsible PDWG Jordi......<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES">Noah<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                  lang="ES"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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