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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>However, the chairs declared consensus and unless the appeal succeed, *<b>it has consensus</b>*.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>What I’m talking is about process:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-1301581153995283111msolistparagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Chairs declare consensus.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmail-m-1301581153995283111msolistparagraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Chairs send it for ratification.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>We need to fix this part within the PDP so that co-chairs decisions are put on hold pending AC determination otherwise it doesn't make sense. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;text-indent:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>è<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>This is an interesting question for the Board. Maybe they could respond already? The question is about ratification in case of an appeal (in general, not any specific proposal). Would the board wait for the appeal resolution before proceeding or they will ratify and then go back if the appeal succeeds? If this is not clear, we may need to add one paragraph in the PDP to easily resolve that.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>The rest of the points 3, 4, 5 you make, would not be necessary if the PDP process was followed. The board in its fiduciary duty can choose not to ratify such a policy <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;text-indent:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>è<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yes and not. To be true, this need to be also in stone in the PDP, which is the way it is in other RIRs, but not in Afrinic. The PDP need to ensure that the board can, in case of trouble for the organization “hold” a policy from ratification.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>in order to protect the Org but what is puzzling to me is co-chairs ignoring not only WG valid objections but also staff impact analysis and forge ahead with a recommendation for ratification of a proposal that would impact the Organization.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;text-indent:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>è<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don’t agree here. The chairs can’t judge the impact analysis if the community decides to ignore it (or not trust it, or believe is wrong, or whatever). I’ve seen several “wrong” impact analysis in several RIRs, and this is only proved if the policy is allowed to go thru. However, if the organization is put in risk, that’s why the PDP should ensure that the board has the prerogative to justify the “no ratification and return to the PDWG”.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>I mean, it is becoming more and more clear that as a WG, we ought to take our responsibilities very seriously and ensure that we select <b>responsible</b> <b>co-chairs</b>? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;text-indent:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>è<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>** YES! **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Noah<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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