Dear PDWG,<br>Hope you are doing well!<br><br>Le mardi 30 mars 2021, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Seun,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">That’s part of the problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Jordi,</div><div>Thanks for your email, brother!</div><div><br></div><div>...it seems as it's too hard to solve actually :-/</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> [...]<u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">If you look into the PDP, there is *<b>nothing</b>* that allows a co-chair to recusse himself, or even more, authors of a policy proposal to recuse co-chairs. So in fact, that means that the co-chair could perfectly *<b>not selfrecuse</b>* and it will be valid according to the PDP.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>...the next step should be to push the resulting criteria as a DPP soon :-)</div><div> </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">If instead of 2 co-chairs we have 4, 5, 6, etc., the chances that this happens are lower, but having only 2 co-chairs, we shouldn't allow it.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>...then, we need to increase participantion as well </div><div>as the number of participants :-/</div><div><br></div><div> Shalom,</div><div>--sb.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Jordi<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">@jordipalet<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 30/3/21 7:38, "Seun Ojedeji" <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">There is something about G and it will be good to clarify. While a Co-Chair is not expected to propose a policy, if such happens the Co-Chair who has proposed the policy certainly has to recuse himself for conflict of interest.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">However the first part of the question here is about nomination and whether a current author of a policy can be nominated for Co-Chair position. While the second part is what happens if the author eventually becomes the Co-Chair. I believe the second part is easier as such author will recuse himself from Chairing such policy discussion. Hopefully both Co-Chairs will not be authors of same policy :-)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">The first part of the question will then be what the rpd need to agree on.... normally being author of a current policy should not be a barrier to nomination.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Regards<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Sent from my mobile<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Tue, 30 Mar 2021, 06:15 Madhvi Gokool, <<a href="mailto:madhvi@afrinic.net" target="_blank">madhvi@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dear All<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">This comment was received in my inbox. Since the sender did not share with the rpd list as per our request, I therefore submit it to the list. <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Regards<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Madhvi<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><br><br>-------- Forwarded Message -------- <u></u><u></u></p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><tbody><tr><td nowrap valign="top" style="padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right"><b>Subject: <u></u><u></u></b></p></td><td style="padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal">Re: [rpd] Eligibility Criteria for PDWG chairs<u></u><u></u></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign="top" style="padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right"><b>Date: <u></u><u></u></b></p></td><td style="padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal">Sat, 27 Mar 2021 12:35:50 -0400<u></u><u></u></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign="top" style="padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right"><b>From: <u></u><u></u></b></p></td><td style="padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal">McTim <a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank"><dogwallah@gmail.com></a><u></u><u></u></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap valign="top" style="padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right"><b>To: <u></u><u></u></b></p></td><td style="padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal">Madhvi Gokool <a href="mailto:madhvi@afrinic.net" target="_blank"><madhvi@afrinic.net></a><u></u><u></u></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hi madvhi, <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:22 PM Madhvi Gokool <<a href="mailto:madhvi@afrinic.net" target="_blank">madhvi@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><snip><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I would amend "G" to read;<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">G. A PDWG must agree to recuse oneself if they are author or co-author of any of the policy proposals currently under discussion.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Cheers,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">McTim</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">The following are proposals not in the discussion threads :</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify;text-indent:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">H)The intended volunteer must either reside within or originate from AFRINIC’s service region;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify;text-indent:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">I) The intended volunteer must be able to demonstrate excellent presentation and communication skills. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">We look forward to receiving your comments and feedback.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">……………………………………………………………..</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Cher PDWG,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Je vous communique les critères d'éligibilité proposés ci-dessous, qui sont basés sur les discussions précédentes sur la liste de diffusion rpd.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Nous vous encourageons à suivre les directives suivantes afin de faciliter la compilation de vos commentaires :-</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Veuillez lire et examiner attentivement la liste des critères d'éligibilité. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Veuillez répondre à ce courriel afin de conserver le même fil de discussion et de vous assurer que vos commentaires sont lus.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">S'il y a des critères que vous soutenez ou non, veuillez y faire clairement référence et fournir un retour d'information concis (veuillez vous référer à la numérotation dans la liste ci-dessous).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">S'il y a de nouveaux critères que vous souhaitez proposer, veuillez le mentionner clairement et de manière concise et ajouter une nouvelle numérotation.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Critères d'éligibilité proposés</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>A.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Le volontaire concerné doit bien connaître l'écosystème consensuel d'AFRINIC, y compris son processus d'élaboration des politiques. Une compréhension pratique du RFC 7282 est requise.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>B.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Le volontaire concerné doit être accessible et se rendre disponible pour suivre et modérer toutes les discussions sur les propositions de politique sur la liste de diffusion rpd d'AFRINIC, ainsi que pour assister aux réunions de politique publique d'AFRINIC lorsqu'elles ont lieu (Note : Toute l'assistance logistique sera fournie par AFRINIC) ;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>C.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Le volontaire concerné doit avoir au moins 3 ans d'expérience suffisante et active de participation à la liste de diffusion rpd de l'AFRINIC ou de tout autre RIR ;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>D.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Le volontaire concerné doit avoir participé à au moins deux (2) événements AFRINIC (face à face ou virtuels) au cours des trois (3) dernières années ;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>E.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Le volontaire concerné doit avoir une capacité suffisante de compréhension et d'interprétation du contenu du Consolidated Policy Manual d'AFRINIC ;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>F.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Le volontaire concerné doit être capable de démontrer une bonne connaissance technique et une bonne compréhension de l'écosystème Internet. Une expérience technique de 3 ans dans ce domaine serait un avantage.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>G.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Ne doit pas être l'auteur de l'une des propositions de politique actuellement en discussion.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Les propositions suivantes ne figurent pas dans les fils de discussion :</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>H.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Le volontaire concerné doit soit résider ou soit en être originaire de la région de service d'AFRINIC, ;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:71.4pt;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><span>I.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Le volontaire doit être capable de démontrer d'excellentes capacités de présentation et de communication.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Nous nous attendons à recevoir vos commentaires et feedbacks.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Regards<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Madhvi<u></u><u></u></p><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">-- <u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">Madhvi Gokool<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">Senior IP Resources Specialist<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">AFRINIC Ltd.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">t: +230 403 5100 | f: +230 466 6758 | <u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">w: <a href="http://www.afrinic.net" target="_blank">www.afrinic.net</a><u></u><u></u></pre></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mail<wbr>man/listinfo/rpd</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>The 'name' of a resource indicates *what* we seek, an 'address' indicates *where* it is, and a 'route' tells us *how to get there*.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mail<wbr>man/listinfo/rpd</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">______________________________<wbr>_________________ RPD mailing list <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mail<wbr>man/listinfo/rpd</a> <u></u><u></u></p></div><br>******************************<wbr>****************<br>
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