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<p>I do not believe PDWG can self organize given the current
circumstances we have been going on. It is beyond any reasonable
scenario what we are going one here and we cannot pretend we have
been able to self organize to make the things happen when there is
echo chamber the repeat thousand time the same thing over and over
and so many misinterpretations of the rules including by the Board
of Directors.</p>
<p>Regarding the term "Selected" that doesn't necessarily mean
election or consensus, means selection, so who is responsible to
select the Co-Chair. It could be by either ways, so there is not
need to force interpretation to the preferred mode, just because
it was used before.</p>
<p>I personally already manifested my position totally against any
consensus to select people and think that is pure utopia specially
in the situation we find ourselves.<br>
So I reinforce my suggestion to have a NomCom (which is not the
Secretariat) to filter candidates and then a ranked vote for those
eligible.</p>
<p>Fernando</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/03/2021 15:19, Caleb Olumuyiwa
Ogundele wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello Daniel,
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<div>I think what Noah was referring to was the invocation of
section 3.3 in part which says:</div>
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<div><span
style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><b
style=""><i style=""><font color="#757575">If the
Working Group Chair is unable to serve his or her
full term, the Working Group may</font><font
color="#ff0000"> select</font><font color="#757575">
a replacement to serve the remainder of the term. If
the Working Group Chairs are unable to attend the
Public Policy Meeting, the Working Group shall
nominate a Chair for the session. Anyone present at
the meeting, whether in person or by remote
participation, may participate in the </font><font
color="#ff0000">selection</font><font
color="#757575"> process for a temporary Chair.</font></i></b></span><br>
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<div class="gmail_attr">If memory serves me right ( which i'm
pretty sure it does) what happened in Botswana as i was also
present at that meeting and infact had the honour to do the
nomination of Dewole on floor of the the PPM was that Seun
resigned, and the ECOM which is powered by AFRINIC staff
made the call at the meeting. NoMCoM was not involved.</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr">I believe that Madhvi is doing is in
absolute order given the circumstances we find ourselves.
Therefore, this is not a matter that neccessary needs to be
going before the NoMCoM. The PDWG can self organise and that
is what is happening here. The whole idea is to drive a
concensus by the secretariat based on serving the interest
of the PDWG.</div>
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I believe that the conversation should be, how we get the
interim chairs "<b>SELECTED</b>" from within the working
group? I also do not see any word around "ELECTION" but
selection by the WG.</div>
<div class="gmail_attr">We need to be mindful of the words in
the CPM.</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr">Bear in mind that my comments are made
as a RPD community member and not a comment based on any hat
i currently wear in the community.</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr">Caleb Ogundele </div>
<div class="gmail_attr">Community Member</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:32
PM Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
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<p>I am happy you said "coordination with NomCom Chair".
So I expect we should be having NomCOM by now, and they
handling the selection/election process of the Co-Chairs
going forward.</p>
<p>The Secretariat providing the support necessary for the
NomCom to function.</p>
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<p>Simply,</p>
<p>Daniel<br>
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<div>On 27/03/2021 3:00 pm, Noah wrote:<br>
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2021, 14:18 Daniel Yakmut, <<a
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<p>AfriNIC has always been Secretariat for
PDWG. But I can't remember it mutating into
a NomCom.</p>
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<div dir="auto">Dan,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Well as an example, when we were in
Botswana in 2016, where within an hour of Seun
resignation after the PPM, the WG selected Dewole as
co-chair with the coordination from policy liason
(AFRINIC Staff) and nomcom chair.</div>
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<div dir="auto">This coordination from the secretariat
is not new chief.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Noah</div>
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