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    <p>Hello<br>
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    <p>I do not believe PDWG can self organize given the current
      circumstances we have been going on. It is beyond any reasonable
      scenario what we are going one here and we cannot pretend we have
      been able to self organize to make the things happen when there is
      echo chamber the repeat thousand time the same thing over and over
      and so many misinterpretations of the rules including by the Board
      of Directors.</p>
    <p>Regarding the term "Selected" that doesn't necessarily mean
      election or consensus, means selection, so who is responsible to
      select the Co-Chair. It could be by either ways, so there is not
      need to force interpretation to the preferred mode, just because
      it was used before.</p>
    <p>I personally already manifested my position totally against any
      consensus to select people and think that is pure utopia specially
      in the situation we find ourselves.<br>
      So I reinforce my suggestion to have a NomCom (which is not the
      Secretariat) to filter candidates and then a ranked vote for those
      eligible.</p>
    <p>Fernando</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/03/2021 15:19, Caleb Olumuyiwa
      Ogundele wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">Hello Daniel,
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          <div>I think what Noah  was referring to was the invocation of
            section 3.3 in part which says:</div>
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                style=""><i style=""><font color="#757575">If the
                    Working Group Chair is unable to serve his or her
                    full term, the Working Group may</font><font
                    color="#ff0000"> select</font><font color="#757575">
                    a replacement to serve the remainder of the term. If
                    the Working Group Chairs are unable to attend the
                    Public Policy Meeting, the Working Group shall
                    nominate a Chair for the session. Anyone present at
                    the meeting, whether in person or by remote
                    participation, may participate in the </font><font
                    color="#ff0000">selection</font><font
                    color="#757575"> process for a temporary Chair.</font></i></b></span><br>
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          <div class="gmail_attr">If memory serves me right ( which i'm
            pretty sure it does) what happened in Botswana as i was also
            present at that meeting and infact had the honour to do the
            nomination of Dewole on floor of the the PPM was that Seun
            resigned, and the ECOM which is powered by AFRINIC staff 
            made the call at the meeting. NoMCoM was not involved.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_attr">I believe that Madhvi is doing is in
            absolute order given the circumstances we find ourselves.
            Therefore, this is not a matter that neccessary needs to be
            going before the NoMCoM. The PDWG can self organise and that
            is what is happening here. The whole idea is to drive a
            concensus by the secretariat based on serving the interest
            of the PDWG.</div>
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            I believe that the conversation should be, how we get the
            interim chairs "<b>SELECTED</b>" from within the working
            group? I also do not see any word around "ELECTION" but
            selection by the WG.</div>
          <div class="gmail_attr">We need to be mindful of the words in
            the CPM.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_attr">Bear in mind that my comments are made
            as a RPD community member and not a comment based on any hat
            i currently wear in the community.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_attr">Caleb Ogundele </div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:32
            PM Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a
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              <p>I am happy you said "coordination with NomCom Chair".
                So I expect we should be having NomCOM by now, and they
                handling the selection/election process of the Co-Chairs
                going forward.</p>
              <p>The Secretariat providing the support necessary for the
                NomCom to function.</p>
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              <p>Simply,</p>
              <p>Daniel<br>
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              <div>On 27/03/2021 3:00 pm, Noah wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 27 Mar
                        2021, 14:18 Daniel Yakmut, <<a
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                          <p>AfriNIC has always been Secretariat for
                            PDWG. But I can't remember it mutating into
                            a NomCom.</p>
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                  <div dir="auto">Dan,</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">Well as an example, when we were in
                    Botswana in 2016, where within an hour of Seun
                    resignation after the PPM, the WG selected Dewole as
                    co-chair with the coordination from policy liason
                    (AFRINIC Staff) and nomcom chair.</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">This coordination from the secretariat
                    is not new chief.</div>
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                  <div dir="auto">Noah</div>
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