<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 21, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" class="">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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  <div class=""><p class="">Jordi, article 11.4 is completely out of the PDP.</p><p class="">Even if this exists in the AfriNic bylaws the Board of Directors
      is not authorized by the community to adopting policies without
      the prior consensus of the community. You are preferring something
      that is illegal.</p><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote>Fernando, you are mistaken here.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>The board has the power to set the policies by which AFRINIC administers resources. The board delegates that power to the PDWG through the PDP which still requires that the board ratify any policy proposed for adoption by the PDWG.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>The bylaws of the corporation are the institutional guiding document of the corporation. The CPM and the PDP contained therein are subject to the bylaws, not the other way around.</div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">In the case the Board understands they can do such thing just
      because it is written in the bylaws it has the potential to create
      an unprecedented thing which could lead to ICANN stop recognizing
      AfriNic as a RIR for voiding ICP-2 which states the bottom-up
      self-governance structure for setting local policies. ICP-2 is not
      just for creating a new RIR, but if it was recognized based on
      that it must keep committing to those principles. Even in a urgent
      situation if considered like this, it cannot do based on the
      bylaws as bylaws doesn't regulate bottom-up self-governance and
      cannot go against ICP-2.</p></div></div></blockquote>People continue to refer to ICP-2 as if it is some magical document governing the conduct of RIRs once they are chartered.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>ICP-2 is a document describing the IANA process for establishing a new RIR…</div><div><br class=""></div><div>The first paragraph of ICP-2 reads:</div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div><p align="left" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 1.4rem; font-size: 16px; margin: 0px 0px 1.25rem; caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;" class="">IMPORTANT NOTICE. The following Internet Coordination Policy is being posted for the information of the Internet community. It contains a statement of policy followed by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (<abbr title="Internet Assigned Numbers Authority" style="box-sizing: border-box; unicode-bidi: bidi-override; direction: ltr; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 153); cursor: help; transition: all 0.2s;" class="">IANA</abbr>) in administering the system for allocation and assignment of Internet <abbr title="Protocol" style="box-sizing: border-box; unicode-bidi: bidi-override; direction: ltr; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 153); cursor: help; transition: all 0.2s;" class="">Protocol</abbr> (<abbr title="Internet Protocol or Intellectual Property" style="box-sizing: border-box; unicode-bidi: bidi-override; direction: ltr; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 153); cursor: help; transition: all 0.2s;" class="">IP</abbr>) addresses.</p></div></blockquote><div><div class="">It does not continue to govern the RIR once it is established and accredited. Said governance is entirely up to the membership and (where and to the extent delegated by the board or the membership) by committees, working groups, and/or the community at large.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So please, can we stop with the endless erroneous claims about ICP-2 and the power of the community over the board? It simply doesn’t exist.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">AFIRINIC and every other RIR is a corporation with traditional corporate governance structures.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">Fernando<br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/02/2021 05:28, JORDI PALET
      MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br class="">
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      <div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class="">Hi Daniel,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class="">My personal preference was stated: The Board,
            according to bylaws 11.4 *<b class="">may</b>* set a policy for
            having a way out of this situation and not wasting more
            time, possibly by asking the community a set of candidates
            and then they making the decision.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class="">This is something explicitly mention in other
            RIRs. This was also accepted by the community by consensus
            in a policy that reached consensus but the board hasn’t yet
            ratified for surprising reasons.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class="">I’ve asked the board (copied again, because we
            didn’t get a response), to confirm if their interpretation
            of Article 11.4 will allow that. Can the Board please
            confirm?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class="">HOWEVER, all that said, my understanding from
            the summary of the last few days discussion and the latest
            inputs is that most of the community that have spoken prefer
            elections. I’m fine either way. I just want to make sure
            that neutral chairs are working ASAP.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class="">Note that in general, I will also prefer
            elections. Remember that I was the one many months ago,
            pushing for that, and that it is also stated in another of
            my policy proposals. In fact, as some people doubts about
            on-line elections, the Board could follow 11.4 to set a
            policy for on-line elections, so nobody is in doubt that
            this is a valid choice.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US" class="">Someone can say that I’m contradicting myself:
            NO. What I’m saying is that if we can reach an agreement on
            something, let’s do it and in that case my preference is
            on-line elections, but otherwise, we need someone, and the
            Board could interpret with the bylaws that they are the
            right one, to take a decision and move on. What I’m against
            is anything that delays for more than a couple of months
            having chairs working.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">Jordi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">@jordipalet<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 21/2/21
              6:25, "Daniel Yakmut" <<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>>
              escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p>
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        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Good morning
            Jordi,<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Are you
              asking the board to suspend the cpm and every  other rule
              that drives the PDP, by creating or enacting an interim
              byelaw?<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">What is so
              difficult in conducting an election. I remembered we did
              an electronic voting recently. I see most of the
              suggestions presented in some way or the other violates
              the cpm and the PDP.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Therefore,
              let us simply work with the fact that we don't have
              co-chairs, let us forget any tenure completion, rather let
              us have co-chairs that are starting a tenure afresh. This
              means constituting a nomcom, that will make the necessary
              calls and conduct an election. Make the time shorter
              because of the urgency.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I think we
              can suspend all actions for now, and sort this  matter
              first.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Simply<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Daniel<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p>
          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Feb 19,
              2021 9:36 AM, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
              wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class="">Hi Sunday,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class="">The problem
                      of making a selection in the PDWG in an open way,
                      trying to reach consensus is that:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="m-3289291322065000572msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
                    level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore" class="">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
                        "Times New Roman"" class="">       </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class="">There is a
                      high risk that you have more than 2 candidates.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="m-3289291322065000572msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
                    level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore" class="">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
                        "Times New Roman"" class="">       </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class="">There is a
                      risk of people not willing to “openly” support or
                      object to the candidates.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="m-3289291322065000572msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
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                        "Times New Roman"" class="">       </span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class="">It means, in
                      case of 1 above, more time -> you need to fall
                      back to elections.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                  <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">Instead going to the option 1 that
                        most of the people in the PDWG supported, allows
                        do to the same in terms of results. We did that
                        last time. We had initially 4 or 5 candidates
                        for a single position, some people in the PDWG
                        openly (and I guess in private) suggested to the
                        candidates to step down in favor of just one
                        candidate, and it happened. This save a lot of
                        time, because it happens in paralel to the
                        elections, so is a “risk-free” option.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">Now, as you are asking me to state
                        what was my position … before all this started I
                        said it in the list:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">See point 1 at <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012234.html" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012234.html</a>.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">I guess most of the people didn't
                        noticed it. So this is consistent with choices 3
                        & 4 and with my last explanations.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">I don’t think any choice we take is
                        agains the PDP, because it is an unprecedent
                        situation, very simple, but beyond that, the
                        Board can make use of the bylaws to make a
                        temporary policy that amends the PDP, decide on
                        the process they wish and then, once we have a
                        meeting, the community can make a new choice.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">However, as said, because I think
                        consensus is what we should follow, I’m fine
                        with any other choice that works and don’t
                        create troubles or discrimination.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">Regards,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">Jordi</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">@jordipalet</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                  <div class="">
                    <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt">El
                        18/2/21 23:33, "Sunday Folayan" <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>>
                        escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                  </div>
                  <div class="">
                    <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                    </div><p style="margin-left:70.8pt" class="">Jordi,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left:70.8pt" class="">First of all, A lot of
                      thoughts and work went into the summary of the
                      discussions that you made. Your contributions and
                      efforts are quite appreciated. Merci Beacoup.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt">Having
                      said that, I have not changed my position since
                      you started the Pre co-chair selection
                      coordination, (ie Follow the provisions of the
                      CPM, appoint WG Chairs, do not ask the Board to
                      appoint WG Chairs) It may not be so popular in
                      terms of how many times it has been repeated, but
                      it is consistent with the CPM.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left:70.8pt" class="">Regarding the deadline
                      and the transmission you made to the Board, the
                      purpose of the deadline was to give an input to
                      the Board, supposedly before its meeting, but ...
                      Does the WG need any Board action? The answer is
                      NO! Was that a procedural error? YES.  Am I
                      complaining now? NO!  Can it be rectified? YES!<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt">What
                      is your take on Sylvian's request on the need to
                      follow the CPM provisions?<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left:70.8pt" class="">At some point, you
                      mentioned not having a preference, about the
                      probable course of action. Perhaps it is time to
                      reveal your preference. Do you agree with
                      following the subsisting provisions of the CPM?<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left:70.8pt" class="">Sunday.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                    <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                    <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt">On
                        2/18/21 10:47 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD
                        wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                    <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span class="m-3289291322065000572estilocorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class=""></span></span><span class="m-3289291322065000572estilocorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class="">Hi
                            Sunday,</span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">I started by saying that if
                            someone else want to do it … and nobody
                            responded. I even pointed that may be the RC
                            can do it.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012299.html" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012299.html</a>
                            (also see previous emails asking the Board
                            and CEO to move on, etc.)</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">We had a deadline (17<sup class="">th</sup>),
                            during all those days, nobody objected,
                            nobody voluntered. I stayed silent about my
                            own personal opinion, and a few hours before
                            the deadline, released the summary.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">If anyone volunterred ahead of
                            the deadline, I will just provided him the
                            notes that I was taking, so he/she could
                            have continued.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">So I can’t agree in your point
                            about this.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">So complaining afterwards, and
                            not having volunteered, is like what we say
                            in spain "Like the dog in the manger,
                            neither eats nor lets eat", not sure if this
                            has a better translation in English in terms
                            of an equivalent expression.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">I’m sorry to be a person of
                            “actions”, but definitively will not “wait
                            forever” if nobody else is acting. So yes,
                            I’m guilty for that. Guilty for ensuring
                            that we provide inputs before a deadline
                            that was set to the PDWG.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">I will love to see if the staff
                            can do their own review of all the inputs
                            and can say that the conclusion is different
                            …</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-US" class="">Let’s see if that happens.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class="">Regards,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class="">Jordi</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      <div class="">
                        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">El
                            18/2/21 21:23, "Sunday Folayan" <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>>
                            escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Sylvain,<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div><p style="margin-left:106.2pt" class="">You wrote<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><b class="">"10|
                            Let's back to the PDP to do the only task 
                            we PDWG are allowed to do without our
                            Chairs.  Sunday, please can you handle the
                            process  to help the PDWG to enforce its
                            PDP?" </b><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div class="">
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Enforcing
                              the PDP is not the role of anyone person.
                              We all should be active and vigilant.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              I can initiate things, by pointing out
                              that many wrongs do not make a right.
                              Sometimes, in haste, we fail to look at
                              the details, nor pause to look at small
                              details. No matter how far one may have
                              gone in a wrong direction, it is best to
                              course-correct as soon as possible.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Jordi
                        acted in good faith,  with some level of urgency
                        to move the group forward, but missed a very
                        important step ... ie properly volunteer to be a
                        temporary WG Co-Chair, and wait for some
                        acclamation. It will not have called for his
                        legitimacy being questioned, specifically by
                        Arnaud with:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><b class="">"Who
                            appointed  you in this role? don’t you think
                            board, staff are following discussions and
                            can make their own minds and judgment on the
                            discussions and  the  outcomes? Or is your
                            intention to influence or bias discussion".</b>
                          <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">I
                          still insist that the provisions of the PDP,
                          according to the CPM is:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">"If
                              the Working Group Chair is unable to serve
                              his or her full term, the Working Group
                              may select a replacement to serve the
                              remainder of the term. If the Working
                              Group Chairs are unable to attend the
                              Public Policy Meeting, the Working Group
                              shall nominate a Chair for the session.
                              Anyone present at the meeting, whether in
                              person or by remote participation, may
                              participate in the selection process for a
                              temporary Chair"</span></b><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#757575" class=""><br class="">
                            <br class="">
                          </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">See
                          the word selection process there? That is what
                          we need to define by consensus. As a working
                          group, we can select our Co-Chairs, by simply
                          asking the staff/Policy Liaison to call for
                          volunteers, and shepherd the process,
                          reverting always to the WG for guidance, when
                          needed (which ultimately defines the process)<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">I
                          like the proposition by Noah, specifically:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><b class="">"Can
                            AFRINIC staff and specifically Madhvi take
                            up the lead and work with the WG to ensure
                            that its following the CPM to fill the
                            vacancy.  I dont support the rushed work
                            that was done here by Jordi since there is
                            already claims of misinteretation.  Please
                            afford this working group time to self
                            organise"</b><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">I
                          urge everyone to adopt it, as a way forward
                          with an Affirmative YES.  Personally, I
                          support the above CPM-compatible line of
                          action.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Anyone
                            can also propose some other CPM-Compatible
                            action<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                        </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Sunday.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">On
                          2/18/21 1:04 PM, Sylvain Baya wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="">
                        <div class="">
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">{start
                              a new thread from [1]}<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Dear
                              PDWG,<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Hope you are safe and well!<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><tl;dr><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">This
                              PDWG has violated its own PDP by reaching
                              a consensus non PDP-compliant. In fact,
                              the actualités CPM (version 1.6) contains
                              no provision which could allow the PDWG to
                              varying the process without at least one
                              PDWG's Chair in place.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><tl;dr><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">...i
                              first want to thank Jordi, for have
                              right•ful•ly <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">decided
                              to coordinate PDWG actions during <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">this
                              post-recall PDWG's Chairs transition
                              period. <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">He
                              did well (because the PDP [2] implicitely <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">allows
                              it, by leaving the howto question {see
                              CPM <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">section
                              3.3 [3]} to the implementors), but, IMHO,
                              Jordi <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">also
                              failed to stick to only what was allowed <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">by
                              the PDP [3]. This is were what Fernando <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">have
                              tried to explain below is really
                              relevant...i <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">can
                              also refer to more than two emails where <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Sunday
                              is trying to enlightening that lack of PDP
                              compliance. <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Some
                              observations or facts to consider:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">~°~<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•1|
                              First, the final action made [4] on
                              tuesday by Jordi, <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">on
                              behalf of the PDWG is a good proof that
                              if <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">appropriately
                              conducted, the consensus-driven <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">mecanism
                              can work very well in this AfriNIC's <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">PDWG.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•2|
                              The PDP is *sufficiently* clear about the
                              emergency <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">procedure
                              to use when it comes to replacing <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">the
                              PDWG's Chair(s) before the end of
                              mandate(s).<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•3|
                              The PDP is also clear (see CPM section 3.6
                              [5]) <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">about
                              who from the PDWG can varying the process <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">(PDP)
                              and in which kind of circonstances.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•4|
                              This post-recall PDWG's Chairs time makes <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">an
                              interesting precedent to study and
                              without <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">at
                              least one of its Chairs, the PDWG is
                              leaved <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">with
                              no mean to varying the process by
                              itself...<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•5|
                              ...within the CPM (version 1.6) [6] even
                              a <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">consensus
                              reached by the PDWG during this <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">emergency
                              time *MUST* be bond to the few <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">tasks
                              allowed by the PDP (select the new PDWG's <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Chairs;
                              then continue to follow the PDP)...we <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">failed
                              on it; then we are in violation to the
                              actual PDP.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•6|
                              Yes! by the PDP, this PDWG is allowed to
                              do <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">only
                              very few things without its Chairs. Doing <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">more
                              than those things is a clear violation <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">of
                              the PDP.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•7|
                              AfriNIC's BoD has its prerogatives and we
                              are <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">sure
                              it shall act accordingly if we, PDWG,
                              fail <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">to
                              enforce our PDP. Therefore there is no
                              need <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">to
                              violate our own PDP to do something which <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">will
                              be surely do soon by the BoD. That's
                              doing <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">something
                              of non incidence...<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•8|
                              With the new PDWG's Chairs in action, of
                              course, <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">the
                              fact that the PDWG can not actually
                              varying <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">the
                              process by itself (raise a problem) could <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">be
                              consider and therefore handled by
                              proposing <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">a
                              DPP (Draft Policy Proposal) to change at
                              least <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">it
                              for example...<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•9|
                              Jordi has proved a good ability to
                              conduct <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">the
                              PDWG, he is therefore a proven-good
                              candidate <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">as
                              a replacement PDWG's Chair, for us, IMHO.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">10|
                              Let's back to the PDP to do the only task <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">we
                              PDWG are allowed to do without our
                              Chairs. <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Sunday,
                              please can you handle the process <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">to
                              help the PDWG to enforce its PDP? <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">~°~<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">...i
                              want to call the PDWG once more [7], to
                              firmly <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">defend
                              its PDP; because that is the most
                              important <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">thing
                              to do, IMHO, during these difficult times.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">If
                              you see things differently, i look
                              forward <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">to
                              reading you too! ;-)<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Thanks
                              & Blessed thursday!<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">__<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">[1]:
                              <<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/thread.html#12428" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/thread.html#12428</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">[2]:
                              <<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class=""><a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP</a></span>><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">[3]: <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDWG" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDWG</a>></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">[4]: <<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/012425.html" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/012425.html</a>></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">[5]: <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#Varying-Process" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#Varying-Process</a>></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">[6]: <<a href="https://afrinic.net/cpm-1-6" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://afrinic.net/cpm-1-6</a>></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                          </div>
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                            <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">[7]: <<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/012358.html" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/012358.html</a>></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Shalom,<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt">--sb.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                              <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Le
                                  mer. 17 févr. 2021 02:46, Fernando
                                  Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>
                                  a écrit :<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                                <div class=""><p style="margin-left:106.2pt" class="">Hello
                                    Gregoire<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left:106.2pt" class="">Well,
                                    the PDP makes it clear that is up to
                                    the WG to select the Co-Chairs, no
                                    one else (point 3.3). It doesn't
                                    have a fallback mechanism or even a
                                    point which allows the WG defer that
                                    decision to the Board.<br class="">
                                    This is different from when
                                    something is not mentioned at all
                                    and is considered not covered by
                                    current rules.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left:106.2pt" class="">So
                                    anything different from what is in
                                    the PDP right now is a change in the
                                    PDP and a change in the PDP can only
                                    be done via the due process with
                                    rough consensus when we have new
                                    Co-Chairs in place. Even if the WG
                                    would decide unanimously right now
                                    to defer that decision it is
                                    something that cannot be done at the
                                    present because the current PDP as
                                    written forbids it having it clear
                                    the only way Co-Chairs can be
                                    chosen. <o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left:106.2pt" class="">I keep
                                    hoping the Board will organize the
                                    elections soon and we will be able
                                    to progress in this matter with the
                                    natural way which is the WG
                                    choosing.<br class="">
                                    Hope also in the next change we have
                                    to adjust the PDP we can include the
                                    possibility for the Board to be able
                                    to select temporary/interim
                                    Co-Chairs during unforeseen
                                    situation and it is in other RIRs.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-left:106.2pt" class="">Regards<br class="">
                                    Fernando<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                                  <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">[...]<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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