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<p>Jordi, article 11.4 is completely out of the PDP.</p>
<p>Even if this exists in the AfriNic bylaws the Board of Directors
is not authorized by the community to adopting policies without
the prior consensus of the community. You are preferring something
that is illegal.</p>
<p>In the case the Board understands they can do such thing just
because it is written in the bylaws it has the potential to create
an unprecedented thing which could lead to ICANN stop recognizing
AfriNic as a RIR for voiding ICP-2 which states the bottom-up
self-governance structure for setting local policies. ICP-2 is not
just for creating a new RIR, but if it was recognized based on
that it must keep committing to those principles. Even in a urgent
situation if considered like this, it cannot do based on the
bylaws as bylaws doesn't regulate bottom-up self-governance and
cannot go against ICP-2.</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/02/2021 05:28, JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Hi Daniel,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">My personal preference was stated: The Board,
according to bylaws 11.4 *<b>may</b>* set a policy for
having a way out of this situation and not wasting more
time, possibly by asking the community a set of candidates
and then they making the decision.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">This is something explicitly mention in other
RIRs. This was also accepted by the community by consensus
in a policy that reached consensus but the board hasn’t yet
ratified for surprising reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I’ve asked the board (copied again, because we
didn’t get a response), to confirm if their interpretation
of Article 11.4 will allow that. Can the Board please
confirm?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">HOWEVER, all that said, my understanding from
the summary of the last few days discussion and the latest
inputs is that most of the community that have spoken prefer
elections. I’m fine either way. I just want to make sure
that neutral chairs are working ASAP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Note that in general, I will also prefer
elections. Remember that I was the one many months ago,
pushing for that, and that it is also stated in another of
my policy proposals. In fact, as some people doubts about
on-line elections, the Board could follow 11.4 to set a
policy for on-line elections, so nobody is in doubt that
this is a valid choice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Someone can say that I’m contradicting myself:
NO. What I’m saying is that if we can reach an agreement on
something, let’s do it and in that case my preference is
on-line elections, but otherwise, we need someone, and the
Board could interpret with the bylaws that they are the
right one, to take a decision and move on. What I’m against
is anything that delays for more than a couple of months
having chairs working.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 21/2/21
6:25, "Daniel Yakmut" <<a
href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>>
escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Good morning
Jordi,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Are you
asking the board to suspend the cpm and every other rule
that drives the PDP, by creating or enacting an interim
byelaw?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">What is so
difficult in conducting an election. I remembered we did
an electronic voting recently. I see most of the
suggestions presented in some way or the other violates
the cpm and the PDP.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Therefore,
let us simply work with the fact that we don't have
co-chairs, let us forget any tenure completion, rather let
us have co-chairs that are starting a tenure afresh. This
means constituting a nomcom, that will make the necessary
calls and conduct an election. Make the time shorter
because of the urgency.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I think we
can suspend all actions for now, and sort this matter
first.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Simply<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Daniel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Feb 19,
2021 9:36 AM, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD" <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Hi Sunday,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The problem
of making a selection in the PDWG in an open way,
trying to reach consensus is that:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m-3289291322065000572msolistparagraph"
style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">There is a
high risk that you have more than 2 candidates.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m-3289291322065000572msolistparagraph"
style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">There is a
risk of people not willing to “openly” support or
object to the candidates.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m-3289291322065000572msolistparagraph"
style="margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">It means, in
case of 1 above, more time -> you need to fall
back to elections.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Instead going to the option 1 that
most of the people in the PDWG supported, allows
do to the same in terms of results. We did that
last time. We had initially 4 or 5 candidates
for a single position, some people in the PDWG
openly (and I guess in private) suggested to the
candidates to step down in favor of just one
candidate, and it happened. This save a lot of
time, because it happens in paralel to the
elections, so is a “risk-free” option.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Now, as you are asking me to state
what was my position … before all this started I
said it in the list:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">See point 1 at <a
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012234.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012234.html</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">I guess most of the people didn't
noticed it. So this is consistent with choices 3
& 4 and with my last explanations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">I don’t think any choice we take is
agains the PDP, because it is an unprecedent
situation, very simple, but beyond that, the
Board can make use of the bylaws to make a
temporary policy that amends the PDP, decide on
the process they wish and then, once we have a
meeting, the community can make a new choice.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">However, as said, because I think
consensus is what we should follow, I’m fine
with any other choice that works and don’t
create troubles or discrimination.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">@jordipalet</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt">El
18/2/21 23:33, "Sunday Folayan" <<a
href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>>
escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p style="margin-left:70.8pt">Jordi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:70.8pt">First of all, A lot of
thoughts and work went into the summary of the
discussions that you made. Your contributions and
efforts are quite appreciated. Merci Beacoup.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt">Having
said that, I have not changed my position since
you started the Pre co-chair selection
coordination, (ie Follow the provisions of the
CPM, appoint WG Chairs, do not ask the Board to
appoint WG Chairs) It may not be so popular in
terms of how many times it has been repeated, but
it is consistent with the CPM.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:70.8pt">Regarding the deadline
and the transmission you made to the Board, the
purpose of the deadline was to give an input to
the Board, supposedly before its meeting, but ...
Does the WG need any Board action? The answer is
NO! Was that a procedural error? YES. Am I
complaining now? NO! Can it be rectified? YES!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt">What
is your take on Sylvian's request on the need to
follow the CPM provisions?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:70.8pt">At some point, you
mentioned not having a preference, about the
probable course of action. Perhaps it is time to
reveal your preference. Do you agree with
following the subsisting provisions of the CPM?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:70.8pt">Sunday.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt">On
2/18/21 10:47 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
class="m-3289291322065000572estilocorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></span><span
class="m-3289291322065000572estilocorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Hi
Sunday,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">I started by saying that if
someone else want to do it … and nobody
responded. I even pointed that may be the RC
can do it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"><a
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012299.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012299.html</a>
(also see previous emails asking the Board
and CEO to move on, etc.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">We had a deadline (17<sup>th</sup>),
during all those days, nobody objected,
nobody voluntered. I stayed silent about my
own personal opinion, and a few hours before
the deadline, released the summary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">If anyone volunterred ahead of
the deadline, I will just provided him the
notes that I was taking, so he/she could
have continued.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">So I can’t agree in your point
about this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">So complaining afterwards, and
not having volunteered, is like what we say
in spain "Like the dog in the manger,
neither eats nor lets eat", not sure if this
has a better translation in English in terms
of an equivalent expression.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">I’m sorry to be a person of
“actions”, but definitively will not “wait
forever” if nobody else is acting. So yes,
I’m guilty for that. Guilty for ensuring
that we provide inputs before a deadline
that was set to the PDWG.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">I will love to see if the staff
can do their own review of all the inputs
and can say that the conclusion is different
…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Let’s see if that happens.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">El
18/2/21 21:23, "Sunday Folayan" <<a
href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>>
escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Sylvain,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p style="margin-left:106.2pt">You wrote<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><b>"10|
Let's back to the PDP to do the only task
we PDWG are allowed to do without our
Chairs. Sunday, please can you handle the
process to help the PDWG to enforce its
PDP?" </b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Enforcing
the PDP is not the role of anyone person.
We all should be active and vigilant.<br>
<br>
I can initiate things, by pointing out
that many wrongs do not make a right.
Sometimes, in haste, we fail to look at
the details, nor pause to look at small
details. No matter how far one may have
gone in a wrong direction, it is best to
course-correct as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Jordi
acted in good faith, with some level of urgency
to move the group forward, but missed a very
important step ... ie properly volunteer to be a
temporary WG Co-Chair, and wait for some
acclamation. It will not have called for his
legitimacy being questioned, specifically by
Arnaud with:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><b>"Who
appointed you in this role? don’t you think
board, staff are following discussions and
can make their own minds and judgment on the
discussions and the outcomes? Or is your
intention to influence or bias discussion".</b>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">I
still insist that the provisions of the PDP,
according to the CPM is:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">"If
the Working Group Chair is unable to serve
his or her full term, the Working Group
may select a replacement to serve the
remainder of the term. If the Working
Group Chairs are unable to attend the
Public Policy Meeting, the Working Group
shall nominate a Chair for the session.
Anyone present at the meeting, whether in
person or by remote participation, may
participate in the selection process for a
temporary Chair"</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#757575"><br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">See
the word selection process there? That is what
we need to define by consensus. As a working
group, we can select our Co-Chairs, by simply
asking the staff/Policy Liaison to call for
volunteers, and shepherd the process,
reverting always to the WG for guidance, when
needed (which ultimately defines the process)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">I
like the proposition by Noah, specifically:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><b>"Can
AFRINIC staff and specifically Madhvi take
up the lead and work with the WG to ensure
that its following the CPM to fill the
vacancy. I dont support the rushed work
that was done here by Jordi since there is
already claims of misinteretation. Please
afford this working group time to self
organise"</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">I
urge everyone to adopt it, as a way forward
with an Affirmative YES. Personally, I
support the above CPM-compatible line of
action.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Anyone
can also propose some other CPM-Compatible
action<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Sunday.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">On
2/18/21 1:04 PM, Sylvain Baya wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">{start
a new thread from [1]}<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Dear
PDWG,<br>
<br>
Hope you are safe and well!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><tl;dr><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">This
PDWG has violated its own PDP by reaching
a consensus non PDP-compliant. In fact,
the actualités CPM (version 1.6) contains
no provision which could allow the PDWG to
varying the process without at least one
PDWG's Chair in place.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><tl;dr><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">...i
first want to thank Jordi, for have
right•ful•ly <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">decided
to coordinate PDWG actions during <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">this
post-recall PDWG's Chairs transition
period. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">He
did well (because the PDP [2] implicitely <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">allows
it, by leaving the howto question {see
CPM <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">section
3.3 [3]} to the implementors), but, IMHO,
Jordi <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">also
failed to stick to only what was allowed <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">by
the PDP [3]. This is were what Fernando <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">have
tried to explain below is really
relevant...i <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">can
also refer to more than two emails where <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Sunday
is trying to enlightening that lack of PDP
compliance. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Some
observations or facts to consider:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">~°~<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•1|
First, the final action made [4] on
tuesday by Jordi, <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">on
behalf of the PDWG is a good proof that
if <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">appropriately
conducted, the consensus-driven <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">mecanism
can work very well in this AfriNIC's <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">PDWG.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•2|
The PDP is *sufficiently* clear about the
emergency <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">procedure
to use when it comes to replacing <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">the
PDWG's Chair(s) before the end of
mandate(s).<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•3|
The PDP is also clear (see CPM section 3.6
[5]) <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">about
who from the PDWG can varying the process <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">(PDP)
and in which kind of circonstances.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•4|
This post-recall PDWG's Chairs time makes <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">an
interesting precedent to study and
without <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">at
least one of its Chairs, the PDWG is
leaved <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">with
no mean to varying the process by
itself...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•5|
...within the CPM (version 1.6) [6] even
a <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">consensus
reached by the PDWG during this <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">emergency
time *MUST* be bond to the few <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">tasks
allowed by the PDP (select the new PDWG's <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Chairs;
then continue to follow the PDP)...we <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">failed
on it; then we are in violation to the
actual PDP.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•6|
Yes! by the PDP, this PDWG is allowed to
do <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">only
very few things without its Chairs. Doing <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">more
than those things is a clear violation <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">of
the PDP.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•7|
AfriNIC's BoD has its prerogatives and we
are <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">sure
it shall act accordingly if we, PDWG,
fail <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">to
enforce our PDP. Therefore there is no
need <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">to
violate our own PDP to do something which <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">will
be surely do soon by the BoD. That's
doing <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">something
of non incidence...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•8|
With the new PDWG's Chairs in action, of
course, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">the
fact that the PDWG can not actually
varying <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">the
process by itself (raise a problem) could <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">be
consider and therefore handled by
proposing <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">a
DPP (Draft Policy Proposal) to change at
least <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">it
for example...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">•9|
Jordi has proved a good ability to
conduct <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">the
PDWG, he is therefore a proven-good
candidate <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">as
a replacement PDWG's Chair, for us, IMHO.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">10|
Let's back to the PDP to do the only task <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">we
PDWG are allowed to do without our
Chairs. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Sunday,
please can you handle the process <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">to
help the PDWG to enforce its PDP? <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">~°~<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">...i
want to call the PDWG once more [7], to
firmly <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">defend
its PDP; because that is the most
important <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">thing
to do, IMHO, during these difficult times.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">If
you see things differently, i look
forward <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">to
reading you too! ;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Thanks
& Blessed thursday!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">__<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">[1]:
<<a
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/thread.html#12428"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/thread.html#12428</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">[2]:
<<span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP</a></span>><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[3]: <<a
href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDWG"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDWG</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[4]: <<a
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/012425.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/012425.html</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[5]: <<a
href="https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#Varying-Process"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#Varying-Process</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[6]: <<a
href="https://afrinic.net/cpm-1-6"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/cpm-1-6</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[7]: <<a
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/012358.html"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/012358.html</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Shalom,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:106.2pt">--sb.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:106.2pt">Le
mer. 17 févr. 2021 02:46, Fernando
Frediani <<a
href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>
a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:106.2pt">Hello
Gregoire<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:106.2pt">Well,
the PDP makes it clear that is up to
the WG to select the Co-Chairs, no
one else (point 3.3). It doesn't
have a fallback mechanism or even a
point which allows the WG defer that
decision to the Board.<br>
This is different from when
something is not mentioned at all
and is considered not covered by
current rules.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:106.2pt">So
anything different from what is in
the PDP right now is a change in the
PDP and a change in the PDP can only
be done via the due process with
rough consensus when we have new
Co-Chairs in place. Even if the WG
would decide unanimously right now
to defer that decision it is
something that cannot be done at the
present because the current PDP as
written forbids it having it clear
the only way Co-Chairs can be
chosen. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:106.2pt">I keep
hoping the Board will organize the
elections soon and we will be able
to progress in this matter with the
natural way which is the WG
choosing.<br>
Hope also in the next change we have
to adjust the PDP we can include the
possibility for the Board to be able
to select temporary/interim
Co-Chairs during unforeseen
situation and it is in other RIRs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:106.2pt">Regards<br>
Fernando<o:p></o:p></p>
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