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    <p>Dear PWDG,<br>
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    <p>It is clear we cannot alter the rules in the middle of the game.
      Any new rules to make one eligible to be a co-chair that is not in
      any of our books is not tenable.</p>
    <p>What should be done, is to start a process that is legitimate and
      conforms to the CPM and any other reference,  to create the new
      eligibility rules. However, I understand that this has to come as
      a proposed policy and it has to go through the cycle of
      discussions and reaching a consensus, but this also is a challenge
      because we need a co-chair to coordinate the process and we don't
      have one.</p>
    <p>We are at a cross road, let me remind us that there is never a
      justification for breaking the law. I am aware that there is a 
      saying that "ignorance is not acceptable in law".  This is an
      interesting time in the life of PWDG. Therefore, except we are
      going to suspend the laws that guide us, then we have to abide by
      the law.</p>
    <p><b>But we can also behave like a military junta, suspend the
        "constitution", do what we want to do.</b> Possibly restore it
      at some later time, but we would have set a precedence and  have
      to live with consequence of this action.</p>
    <p>Simply</p>
    <p>Daniel<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/02/2021 9:49 am, JORDI PALET
      MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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            lang="EN-US">While I’m ok with 6, I think this is clearly a
            basic point for any participant, not just candidates,
            because the AUP or CoC or whatever you want to call it,
            right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 19/2/21
              8:54, "Sunday Folayan" <<a
                href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>>
              escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p style="margin-left:35.4pt">I am OK with Noah's trajectory,
          proposition, and Mike's modification. <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Slight edit in 4. "which is am
          AFRINIC resource members" should read "who is an AFRINIC
          resource member" <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p style="margin-left:35.4pt">I also think we should add ... <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p style="margin-left:35.4pt">6. Ability to remain calm in the
          face of provocation and respect for the continental diversity.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Sunday.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On 2/19/21
            7:38 AM, Mike Silber wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Thanks Noah <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I think that
              is an excellent list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">The only
              thing I would add to your point 5 is an intangible quality
              - a history (or perception) of building consensus. Some of
              us understand RFC 7282, but because of our passion, style
              or language are less successful (or perceived as less
              successful) at moving the group towards consensus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Regards <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Fri,
                  19 Feb 2021 at 07:54, Noah <<a
                    href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" moz-do-not-send="true">noah@neo.co.tz</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hi
                        PDWG participants,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Could
                        we as a WG participants agree on a set of
                        criteria for a WG participant to become a
                        co-chair. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">This
                        I believe is more important and I had shared
                        some few ideas below a separate thread but I
                        think it would make sense to work this out on
                        this new thread.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Some
                        thoughts that crossed my mind as criteria;<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">1. Active participation
                            in WG discussions by a participant, in say,
                            the past 3 years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">2. Participant should
                            demonstrate a clear understanding of the CPM
                            and especially sections that relate to the
                            PDWG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">3. Participant should
                            have some 5 years sound technical experience
                            in this space with a clear understanding of
                            Internet Protocol and preferably having
                            worked in this space.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">4. Affiliation with an
                            entity which is am AFRINIC resource members
                            could come in handy for a participant
                            interested in chairing policy discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">5. Understanding of
                            rfc7282 and what rough consensus and
                            consensus is all about, after all consensus
                            is a path and not a destination. This is
                            very important.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Other participants in
                            this WG can also add and we see what
                            criteria are more required and which ones to
                            discard to keep it simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I stand to be corrected
                            but I think we as a WG have an obligation to
                            first sort this requirements out before we
                            can think of the selection of the interim
                            co-chairs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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