<div dir="auto"><div>Dear PDWG,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 19 févr. 2021 06:29, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 19 Feb 2021, 01:56 Sylvain Baya, <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Dear PDWG,<br></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hi Sylvain</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hi Noah,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for your email, brother. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...just a precision to the PDWG: it's still Sunday </div><div dir="auto">who is checking the Rough Consensus on these selection matters :-)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Maybe Jordi, who discarded my proposition </div><div dir="auto">to become a replacement/interim PDWG Chair, </div><div dir="auto">want to work with Sunday :-/</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...any other volunteer? (we can have more than </div><div dir="auto">two, if we want)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>....a remaining question: <br></div><div>Which model of *selection* y'all prefer?</div><div><br></div><div>
~°~</div><div>• a selection based on an election (online) as usual [1];<br></div><div><div>• a selection through rough consensus [2];<div>• a selection based on ranking voting [3];</div><div><div>• a selection inside a group of selectees based on criteria [4];</div><div><div>• any other possibility?<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Since the working group functions by participation, a selection by rough consensus would come in handy after all, the PDWG activities end goal is to accomplish work by finding a path to consensus so [2] should be considered as first option by the WG.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A selection based on ranking voting would be the second best choice imho so [3] should be considered as second choice by the WG imho.</div><div dir="auto"></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for sharing your choices.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...i failed to number the bullets :'-(</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">then the choices become as below:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">~°~</div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">•1| a selection based on an election (online) as usual [1];<br></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">•2| a selection through rough consensus [2];<div dir="auto">•3| a selection based on ranking voting [3];</div><div dir="auto"><div>•4| a selection inside a group of selectees based on criteria [4];</div></div></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">•5| any other possibility?</span> </div><div dir="auto">~°~</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">NOTE: Before we even think of the above, can we as a WG agree on a set of criteria for one to become a chair. This I believe is more important and I have some few ideas like;</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Many thanks for the proposed criteria.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1. Active participation in WG discussions, in say, the past 3 years.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...i amend Criterion#1 as follow: ...in at least one year during the past three years.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2. Demonstrate clear understanding of the CPM and especially sections that relate to PDWG.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...i second Criterion#2!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">3. Some 5 years sound technical experience in this space with a clear understanding of Internet Protocol and preferably having worked in this space.</div><div dir="auto"></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I amend Criterion#3 in proposing to add this: ...could be an advantage.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">4. Affiliation with an entity which is am AFRINIC resource members could come in handy. </div><div dir="auto"></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...Criterion#4 second!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">5. Understanding of rfc7282 and what rough consensus and consensus is all about, after all consensus is a path and not a destination.</div><div dir="auto"></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Brother, i don't get Criterion#5 very well. Please can you simplify/clarify the proposed text? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...i would have said it this way: </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Criterion#5. Understanding of how Rough </div><div dir="auto">Consensus achievement can be checking/</div><div dir="auto">verifying/conducting; in comformance with </div><div dir="auto">RFC7282.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Other participants in this WG can also add and we see what criteria are more required and which ones to discard to keep it simple.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Criterion#6. ...coming soon maybe ; -)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I stand to be corrected but I think we as a WG have an obligation to first sort this requirements out before we can think of the selection of interim co-chairs.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">...you are right! it has been left TBD (To Be Defined) </div><div dir="auto">on my previous email.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks & Blessed friday!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Shalom,</div><div dir="auto">--sb.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"> <br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers,</div><div dir="auto">Noah</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="auto">
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