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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Anthony,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The criteria set by the elections process is broken because too many reasons, including:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The criterion was NOT set by the PDWG.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The same criteria can’t be used for AFRINIC (organization) and non-membership, because those are different things, and not comparable.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This is why we were discussing a chairs elections proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 19/2/21 13:27, "Anthony Ubah" <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hello Noah,<br><br><br>This is an interesting list of criteria, but I'll have to disagree with them in this case.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I'll narrow my reason down to one thing, and that is, this directly contravenes the AfriNIC (PDWG) Election Process. Also, nothing in the CPM clearly prevents any member of the community from voting.<br><br>Under the Policy Development Working Group (PDWG), Election Process, (<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group?lang=en-GB#election">https://afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group?lang=en-GB#election</a>)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>it states thus;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>3) Candidate Eligibility</b><br>The candidate must:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Be a natural person residing in a country from the AFRINIC service region.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Not be a staff of AFRINIC or any other Regional Internet Registry (RIR).<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br>An election is slated to be open and fair, thus should be no criteria contrary to those of the CPM, which is our guide. Kindly note that only a policy can effect changes otherwise.<br><br>So basically, we need to promote the idea of an open election and fair elections, thus none’s rights should be stifled. Any candidate willing to volunteer to run for a chair should be allowed to exercise his/her rights to do so.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On a final note, you have just played the same role which you have criticized Jordi for, what goes around does come around.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt;line-height:150%'><b><span style='font-size:9.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Best Regards,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt;line-height:150%'><b><span style='font-size:9.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>UBAH ANTHONY</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 6:54 AM Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Hi PDWG participants,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Could we as a WG participants agree on a set of criteria for a WG participant to become a co-chair. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>This I believe is more important and I had shared some few ideas below a separate thread but I think it would make sense to work this out on this new thread.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Some thoughts that crossed my mind as criteria;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>1. Active participation in WG discussions by a participant, in say, the past 3 years.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>2. Participant should demonstrate a clear understanding of the CPM and especially sections that relate to the PDWG.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>3. Participant should have some 5 years sound technical experience in this space with a clear understanding of Internet Protocol and preferably having worked in this space.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>4. Affiliation with an entity which is am AFRINIC resource members could come in handy for a participant interested in chairing policy discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>5. Understanding of rfc7282 and what rough consensus and consensus is all about, after all consensus is a path and not a destination. This is very important.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Other participants in this WG can also add and we see what criteria are more required and which ones to discard to keep it simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I stand to be corrected but I think we as a WG have an obligation to first sort this requirements out before we can think of the selection of the interim co-chairs.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Noah<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list RPD@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd <o:p></o:p></p></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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