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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Noah,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I disagree, it is exactly the same:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I “provoked” a discussion and the PDWG followed and then we reached consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You “provoked” a discussion with a set of requirements and the PDWG is following it to reach consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Be sure that I will contribute, don’t cut down the email that shows clearly what I said. We can disagree, but not play with words, that's unfair, so repeating myself:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Setting a criterion without a policy proposal and the subsequent PDP process is *<b>against the PDP</b>*.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Nevertheless, if this is the path that the PDWG prefer, because this is about consensus, I agree.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I will like to change the priority (make it a bit shorter also), add something but take something out:</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Understanding of RFC7282.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Not being author of any of the actual policy proposals in discussion.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Active (not just reading emails) participation in PDWG. I think 2 years is good enough.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Clear understanding of CPM/PDP.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>At least 3 years of experience in networking.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Asking to be a member is discriminatory. If we add that, it should a “wish”, but never excluding. I see folks that I believe aren’t members and are contributing actively and their rationales are very logic.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I think they should also commit, to ask help to staff or external experts when they don’t have knowledge in any specific topic before taking decisions and ensure that they are engaged with the participant discussions to clarify their position before going to take a decision “on-site” in the meeting.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 19/2/21 10:03, "Noah" <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 11:54 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Now, you are doing exactly the same that you complained I did. Surprising!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Not at all... on the contrary, the working group is participating in a discussion that stemmed from another discussion that had been started by Sylvain. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Since you are a participant in the WG, I encourage you to contribute to the discussion.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Noah<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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