<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Fernando,<div><br></div><div>I'm confused. You apparently have some reservations about the past co-chairs, or about my response, could you be direct, and speak frankly as well?</div><div><br></div><div>While I referenced my previous comments which bothered on the issue of the co-chairs, this was to buttress my point on the need for the community to communicate with more decorum while addressing one another(AFRINIC staff inclusive).</div><div><br></div><div>Taking up a paid position demands a good measure of respect for those being led/Serviced, more so those who have volunteered to serve. I have clearly argued that there should be respect for these individuals and their mental health should be put into considerations while debating or in dispute. There are a few with a penchant for bullying and oppressing officials until their demands are met. I speak up against these.</div><div><br></div><div>I have spoken directly, and hope this is frank enough.</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="line-height:150%"><b style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px"><span style="line-height:150%"><font face="garamond, serif">Best Regards,</font></span></b></p><p style="line-height:150%"><font face="garamond, serif"><b style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px"><span style="line-height:150%">UBAH ANTHONY.</span></b></font></p></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 7:22 PM Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Guys, please let's speak frankly and directly.</p>
<p>It seems there is a bit of regret due to the fact that the work
done is voluntary. And because of that I read some people
suggesting that those in these roles are excused to commit
mistakes and eventually violate rules (regardless if it was
unintentional or not) as it happened recently and was confirmed by
the Recall Committee.</p>
<p>It is always good to have people volunteered for a lot of
community things but nobody may use the volunteer status as an
excuse to do things in the wrong way.<br>
Sometimes you don't have very much experienced volunteers but have
people trying to do their best to fix their own mistakes when
warned by other and carry things on. I believe the previous
Co-Chairs were given enough chances for quiet a while to fix wrong
decisions but they decided to keep them, despite some unnecessary
reactions coming from them as pointed by Recall Committee report
as well.</p>
<p>I have no idea why some people form the Appeal Committee have
resigned but if they either they were not prepared, they were
feeling pressured or had other more important stuff to do it was a
good thing their resignation. Then Board of Directors appoints new
people willing to serve and knowing the situation. That's how the
PDP works and we keep moving.<br>
</p>
<p>So in resume let's not to use the "volunteer" argument that
reduces the seriousness of the job to be done or as an excuse to
commit mistakes and not be able to fix them. If one is not
prepared perhaps it's just not time to accept the role yet.</p>
<p>Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
</p>
<div>On 16/02/2021 15:00, Anthony Ubah
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello Jaco,<br>
<br>
<br>
I completely agree with you. I think we should be gravely
worried.
<div>I'm no expert, but it is appropriate to investigate these
occurrences.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The unfair criticism and aggressive behavior of community
members towards volunteers are uncalled for, and calls to
question the mentality of these volunteers in discharging
their duties moving forward. <br>
<br>
There is a need to review the conduct of community members
towards members who have volunteered in good faith.<br>
<br>
I have spoken about the misconduct from members of this
community towards voluntary officials in countless comments
in the RPD.<br>
<br>
One of such is my response to you in "REQUEST TO RECALL THE
AFRINIC PDWG CO-CHAIRS", on Nov 17, 2020<br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/011996.html" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/011996.html</a><br>
<br>
Below;
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello Jaco<br>
I will have to agree with Daniel.<br>
It is sad to note that these Co-Chairs have been
stretched, dragged, and bullied by members of the
community since I can remember. with respect to the
policies being discussed, the co-chairs who were elected
by the community were pushed by voices in the community
to take action. Reaction to actions taken will always be
relative and comes with divided views as before actions
were taken.<br>
They have worked under immense pressure to man such a
difficult community as ours, and have endured tsunamis
of pressure from different matters arising, members and
perhaps interest groups clamoring for their biddings to
be done against that of other members. What will the
replacement do differently?<br>
Chairing a community like this at this time has proven
to be very complex. A call for their removal is
unwarranted. People must learn to agree to disagree
sometimes for calm and order to ensure, or perhaps
follow due process and exercise patience for the process
to run it’s course naturally. I will also say this call
it is in bad taste, and may cause a fracture in an
already battered structure.<br>
I ran for and lost the race for one of the
then-available seats in Kampala, there I spoke about the
hostility, intimidations, and bullying which I felt and
still feel is resident in the community, prompting me to
run. I stated clearly that these factors are responsible
for discouraging younger generations from actively
participating and bringing in fresh ideas into the
community. Today, I dared not declare interest in
running for a seat in this capacity at Afrinic again
because of these persistent happenings...But I digress<br>
This call may set bad precedence within the community
and It should be rejected this time. ........</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Another such comment is on the thread "Re: Community
Feeback" on Dec 2, 2020.</div>
<div><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/012088.html" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/012088.html</a><br>
<br>
I wrote;<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">" +1<br>
From my understanding, the co-chair role is a voluntary
role, and a very tasking one at it. The truck loads of
pressure and opposition is really alarming and this
makes the role very difficult and unattractive for the
next sets of volunteers.<br>
There should be respect and decorum in dealing with, and
most especially opposing them. Since it is unrealistic
to please everyone, patience and understanding is key
from us all in the community too.<br>
<br>
Like Daniel Yakmut has said, if it is difficult to cope
with the human nature of the elected co-chairs, perhaps
we should seek an auto regulating model, and run on some
sort of poll opinions. That way charts and numbers will
settle differences and no one can have reasons to be
disgruntled.<br>
..........."</blockquote>
<br>
We must explore new ways to protect these volunteers and
their mental health.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
Best Regards,<br>
<br>
UBAH ANTHONY<br>
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<p style="line-height:150%"><b style="line-height:150%;font-size:12.8px"><span style="line-height:150%"><font face="garamond,
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<p style="line-height:150%"><font face="garamond,
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:19
PM Jaco Kroon <<a href="mailto:jaco@uls.co.za" target="_blank">jaco@uls.co.za</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi SM,<br>
<br>
This is the second resignation from the AC in less than a
week.<br>
<br>
Should we be worried?<br>
<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
Jaco<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2021/02/16 15:34, <a href="mailto:chair@afrinic.net" target="_blank">chair@afrinic.net</a>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> Dear Policy Development Working Group,<br>
><br>
> Ms Wafa Dahmani informed the AFRINIC Board of Directors
of her<br>
> resignation from the Policy Development Appeal
Committee member with<br>
> immediate effect. The Board would like to thank Ms
Dahmani for her<br>
> work on the Policy Development Appeal Committee.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> S. Moonesamy<br>
><br>
> Board Chair, AFRINIC<br>
><br>
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