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For some reason, you got me wrong…. see below <b><i>Bold and Italics </i></b><br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 11, 2021 11:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> rpd@afrinic.net <rpd@afrinic.net>; Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Report from Recall Committee</font>
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The Co-chairs appointment mechanism was by show of hands of those attending the face to face meeting where the elections were held until this got abused by filling the room with fake participants for the sake of voting.
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Using the rpd list as a voter register was never an option since the mailing list is open to anyone to participate in policy discussions and decisions are made by consensus.
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The room is supposed to be open to anyone as well, Marcus, so I don’t see how that’s different.</div>
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<div>The PDP is fully open for anyone to participate in both Online discussion and face to face.
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<div><b><i>Filling the room with people for just the sake of voting made the appointment of cochairs by voting at the face as face infeasible, as well as with RPD list.</i></b></div>
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The Co-chair role is just a voluntary administrative role which requires a certain level of experience and most importantly acceptance by the working group.
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<div><b><i>What is needed here is simply a volunteer with the adequate experience known and accepted by the WG to take on this administrative role.</i></b>
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<div><b><i>This should not be too hard to address. We are not the first or the only one appointing WG chair in the world.</i></b></div>
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<div><b><i>PDWG has been appointing cochairs since the inception of AFRINIC We face a certain evolution of things and must respond to.</i></b></div>
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Please let us discourage this notion of “everything must be elections and voting” and give a chance to appointment of cochair by acclamation or consensus.
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Marcus, a show of hands in the room is not acclamation or consensus, it is a vote.</div>
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<div><b><i>Please read me again. I said let stop this " everything by elections and voting" and give chance to consensus and acclamation</i></b></div>
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<div><b><i>In different words, please stop "show of hands in the room" and "voting with RPD as voter register.”</i></b></div>
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If by miracle consensus can’t be reached on a candidate to serve, we defer to the membership to vote and select co-chair.
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It is not a miracle if we cannot reach consensus. It is an unfortunate fact of where we are today.</div>
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<div>If by membership, you mean the membership of the PDWG, then a vote is exactly what most people are proposing.</div>
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<div><b><i>There is no membership defined for the PDWG and once again, there are better approach than the PDWG voting…</i></b><br>
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<div>If by membership you mean (as you state below) AfriNIC membership, then no… That’s not an acceptable alternative because…</div>
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<div><b><i>You have the right to disagree…</i></b></div>
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Either through registered members ( the board ) or resources members or by the full membership.
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Membership in AfriNIC is open to those that have resources, those that are elected to the board, and those that pay some significant annual fee.</div>
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<div>Membership in the PDWG is open to all who have an interest in participating.</div>
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<div>The PDP calls for the co-chairs to be selected by the PDWG, not the AfriNIC membership and there is good reason for this.</div>
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<div><b><i>Oh yes. as there many good reasons for why the PDP does not prescribe or prohibit a selection mechanism.</i></b>
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<div><b><i>So the WG may decide to defer the selection to any other bodies including the AFRINIC membership, which a key stakeholder in AFRINIC Community.</i></b></div>
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<div><b><i>PS: Actually the PDP calls for the co-chairs to be selected by AFRINIC community.</i></b></div>
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<div><b><i>Are not ARIN AC members elected by ARIN general membership?</i></b></div>
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<div>Please do not disenfranchise so much of the community so arbitrarily.</div>
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