<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I am a native English speaker (though some brits might argue that fact as I’m an American).<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will say that the sentence is very clear to me that there is no further action required and the chairs are recalled. “be” and “are” in that context are both of equivalent meaning, but the use of “be” is more in keeping with a style of language generally associated with legal documents.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 9, 2021, at 3:00 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class=""><p class="">The interpretation of this "The Committee therefore determines
that a recall of both the co-Chairs is justifiable in the<br class="">
circumstances, and that both the co-Chairs be recalled with
immediate effect." I understand the statement "...the co-chairs <b class="">be</b>
recalled" as awaiting further action statement, but if the
statement is "...the co-chairs<b class=""> are</b> recalled" this could be
a definitive statement.</p><p class="">However, natives or experts of English Language can advise
better, alternatively we can hear from Legal Counsel the
interpretations.</p><p class=""><br class="">
</p><p class="">Cheers</p><p class="">Daniel<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/02/2021 10:54 am, Timothy Ola
Akinfenwa wrote:<br class="">
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ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">..."<b style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class="">and
determine the outcome.</b>"</div>
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ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">That settles it, at least for
now!</div>
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ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best!<br class="">
Tim <./a></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:50
AM Dewole Ajao via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
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<div class=""><p class="">Boss, it's the process - and it's been written that way
for years in plain sight. <br class="">
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<li style="box-sizing:border-box" class="">Anyone may request the
recall of a Working Group Chair at any time, upon
written request with justification to the AFRINIC Board
of Directors. The request must be supported by at least
five (5) other persons from the Working Group. <b class="">The
AFRINIC Board of Directors shall appoint a recall
committee</b>, excluding the persons requesting the
recall and the Working Group Chairs. <b class="">The recall
committee shall investigate</b> the circumstances of
the justification for the recall <b class="">and determine the
outcome.</b></li>
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<div class="">The <b class="">emphasis </b>in there is mine. It might be
beneficial to the working group if you or any others could
offer alternative interpretations of those sentences so we
can look at them together now rather than waste energy
litigating (Assuming it becomes clear who will be suing
who :-P). I believe the process to appeal the contents of
the PDP is proposing new policy text and convincing the
group that the text should be changed.</div>
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<div class="">Regards,</div>
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<div class="">On 2/9/2021 10:18 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:<br class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">This interpretation is subjective, and it
is totally wrong and draconian for the committee to have
the powers of investigation, judgement and execution.
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<div dir="auto" class="">If truly the Recall committee is this
powerful then the process will have be appealed and it
is a subject of litigation.</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Simply,</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Daniel</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 10:05 AM Alan
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear PDWG,<br class="">
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 00:51, Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
> No Daniel, the output of the Recall Committee
regarding the<br class="">
> Co-Chairs is already final (read point 19 from
their report)<br class="">
> according to whats the CPM says about it, so it
does not<br class="">
> have to be approved by anyone, not even the Board
itself.<br class="">
><br class="">
> So currently we don't have any Co-Chairs.<br class="">
<br class="">
Yes, as far as I understand, the Recall Committee's
decision is final.<br class="">
Article 3.5(3) of the CPM gives the Recall Committee
the power to<br class="">
"determine the outcome", not merely to suggest or
report to some other<br class="">
party. The Board also stated "The Recall Committee
will report the<br class="">
outcome to the Policy Development Working Group. The
decision of the<br class="">
Recall Committee is final." (That is in a document
from the Board<br class="">
that might not have been published, but is referenced
from page 3 of<br class="">
the Recall Committee's Working Procedure document.)<br class="">
<br class="">
The Recall Committee gave their decision in paragraph
19 of the "Final<br class="">
Determination" document: "19. The Committee therefore
determines that<br class="">
a recall of both the co-Chairs is justifiable in the
circumstances,<br class="">
and that both the co-Chairs be recalled with immediate
effect.".<br class="">
<br class="">
> What the Committee has mentioned in the document
is for the<br class="">
> Board to lead the election of the new Co-Chairs
and determine<br class="">
> the transition during this interim.<br class="">
<br class="">
Yes, the last sentence of paragraph 20 of the Recall
Committee's<br class="">
report is a suggestion; it is not binding: "The
Committee suggests<br class="">
that the Board coordinate with the PDWG to find an
adequate transition<br class="">
mechanism until the next election."<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Alan Barrett<br class="">
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