<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I am a native English speaker (though some brits might argue that fact as I’m an American).<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will say that the sentence is very clear to me that there is no further action required and the chairs are recalled. “be” and “are” in that context are both of equivalent meaning, but the use of “be” is more in keeping with a style of language generally associated with legal documents.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 9, 2021, at 3:00 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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  <div class=""><p class="">The interpretation of this "The Committee therefore determines
      that a recall of both the co-Chairs is justifiable in the<br class="">
      circumstances, and that both the co-Chairs be recalled with
      immediate effect." I understand the statement "...the co-chairs <b class="">be</b>
      recalled" as awaiting further action statement, but if the
      statement is "...the co-chairs<b class=""> are</b> recalled" this could be
      a definitive statement.</p><p class="">However, natives or experts of English Language can advise
      better, alternatively we can hear from Legal Counsel the
      interpretations.</p><p class=""><br class="">
    </p><p class="">Cheers</p><p class="">Daniel<br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/02/2021 10:54 am, Timothy Ola
      Akinfenwa wrote:<br class="">
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          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">+1 Dewole<br clear="all" class="">
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          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">..."<b style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class="">and
            determine the outcome.</b>"</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">That settles it, at least for
          now!</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best!<br class="">
          Tim <./a></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:50
          AM Dewole Ajao via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
          wrote:<br class="">
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          <div class=""><p class="">Boss, it's the process - and it's been written that way
              for years in plain sight. <br class="">
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              <li style="box-sizing:border-box" class="">Anyone may request the
                recall of a Working Group Chair at any time, upon
                written request with justification to the AFRINIC Board
                of Directors. The request must be supported by at least
                five (5) other persons from the Working Group. <b class="">The
                  AFRINIC Board of Directors shall appoint a recall
                  committee</b>, excluding the persons requesting the
                recall and the Working Group Chairs. <b class="">The recall
                  committee shall investigate</b> the circumstances of
                the justification for the recall <b class="">and determine the
                  outcome.</b></li>
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            <div class="">The <b class="">emphasis </b>in there is mine. It might be
              beneficial to the working group if you or any others could
              offer alternative interpretations of those sentences so we
              can look at them together now rather than waste energy
              litigating (Assuming it becomes clear who will be suing
              who :-P).  I believe the process to appeal the contents of
              the PDP is proposing new policy text and convincing the
              group that the text should be changed.</div>
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            <div class="">Regards,</div>
            <div class="">Dewole.<br class="">
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            <div class="">On 2/9/2021 10:18 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:<br class="">
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              <div dir="auto" class="">This interpretation is subjective, and it
                is totally wrong and draconian for the committee to have
                the powers of investigation, judgement and execution.
                <div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
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                <div dir="auto" class="">If truly the Recall committee is this
                  powerful then the process will have be appealed and it
                  is a subject of litigation.</div>
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                <div dir="auto" class="">Simply,</div>
                <div dir="auto" class="">Daniel</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 10:05 AM Alan
                  Barrett <<a href="mailto:apb.goo@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">apb.goo@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br class="">
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                  rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear PDWG,<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 00:51, Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br class="">
                  > No Daniel, the output of the Recall Committee
                  regarding the<br class="">
                  > Co-Chairs is already final (read point 19 from
                  their report)<br class="">
                  > according to whats the CPM says about it, so it
                  does not<br class="">
                  > have to be approved by anyone, not even the Board
                  itself.<br class="">
                  ><br class="">
                  > So currently we don't have any Co-Chairs.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Yes, as far as I understand, the Recall Committee's
                  decision is final.<br class="">
                  Article 3.5(3) of the CPM gives the Recall Committee
                  the power to<br class="">
                  "determine the outcome", not merely to suggest or
                  report to some other<br class="">
                  party. The Board also stated "The Recall Committee
                  will report the<br class="">
                  outcome to the Policy Development Working Group. The
                  decision of the<br class="">
                  Recall Committee is final."  (That is in a document
                  from the Board<br class="">
                  that might not have been published, but is referenced
                  from page 3 of<br class="">
                  the Recall Committee's Working Procedure document.)<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  The Recall Committee gave their decision in paragraph
                  19 of the "Final<br class="">
                  Determination" document:  "19. The Committee therefore
                  determines that<br class="">
                  a recall of both the co-Chairs is justifiable in the
                  circumstances,<br class="">
                  and that both the co-Chairs be recalled with immediate
                  effect.".<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  > What the Committee has mentioned in the document
                  is for the<br class="">
                  > Board to lead the election of the new Co-Chairs
                  and determine<br class="">
                  > the transition during this interim.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Yes, the last sentence of paragraph 20 of the Recall
                  Committee's<br class="">
                  report is a suggestion; it is not binding:  "The
                  Committee suggests<br class="">
                  that the Board coordinate with the PDWG to find an
                  adequate transition<br class="">
                  mechanism until the next election."<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Regards,<br class="">
                  Alan Barrett<br class="">
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