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<p>Jordi,</p>
<p>Wait, Wait, wait:<br>
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<p><b><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">"I understand that the staff created a
template, but it is not part of the PDP, and that is a
modification of the PDP, that we all know, requires to be
passed via a policy proposal".</span></span></b></p>
<p><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">We are getting into unnecessary details. How can
this be a violation the PDP? <br>
</span></span></p>
<p><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">For the avoidance of doubt, the PDP states:<br>
</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">“</span></span></b><b><span
lang="EN-US">3.4.4 Approval</span></b></p>
<p><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The Working Group
Chair(s) shall recommend the draft policy to the AFRINIC Board
of Directors for approval if it has the consensus of the
Policy Development Working Group. The recommendation shall
include a report of the discussions of the draft policy and
feedback from the Last Call. The draft policy shall be
ratified by the AFRINIC Board of Directors.<span
class="EstiloCorreo21">”</span></span></b></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
class="EstiloCorreo21">So, in there, you will see:</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
class="EstiloCorreo21">1. WG Chairs shall recommend ...<br>
2. The recommendation shall include a report of discussions
and feedbacks from the last call.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
class="EstiloCorreo21">What is the better way to do this, than
having a template for consistency and tracking? That is purely
operational! That the Staff developed and shared this with the
WG Chairs, is all towards efficiency and smooth operations.<br>
</span></span></p>
<p><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US"></span></span></p>
<p><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">I think we should focus more on goals and
outcomes, instead of micromanaging actions, such as insisting
the WG chairs to first request for approval from the PDWG that
the want to email the Board. <br>
</span></span></p>
<p><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">We need not spoil the broth with too much cooking
please.</span></span></p>
<p><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">Sunday.<br>
</span></span></p>
<p><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US"><br>
</span></span></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/10/21 9:25 AM, JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></span><span
class="EstiloCorreo21"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">Hi Madhvi,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Tks for your quick
response and explanation.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">I understand that
the staff created a template, but it is not part of the
PDP, and that is a modification of the PDP, that we all
know, requires to be passed via a policy proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The PDP indicate:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">“</span></span><span
lang="EN-US">3.4.4 Approval<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The
Working Group Chair(s) shall recommend the draft policy to
the AFRINIC Board of Directors for approval if it has the
consensus of the Policy Development Working Group. The
recommendation shall include a report of the discussions of
the draft policy and feedback from the Last Call. The draft
policy shall be ratified by the AFRINIC Board of Directors.<span
class="EstiloCorreo21">”<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EstiloCorreo21"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Could that template
be published (or attached to your response), so we all
understand it?</span></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">From
Paschal email (yesterday), I understand that the chairs
sent their report to the board email.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">The PDP
doesn't state anything about timing, and it seems that the
board complaining about some timing issues to the
co-chairs. That will be a PDP violation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Can you
also forward to the community a copy of what the chairs
sent to the board and the board response? There should be
nothing secret there, but we are in a very anomalous
situation if the board has rejected the report and the
report was following the PDP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">I must
repeat that the board can’t ask the co-chairs for
something different (neither something else) that what the
PDP describes, because that constitutes a policy
violation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">I
understand your wish to have an internal and “unitform”
template, but that template, in my opinion is not a duty
of the chairs, and instead of the staff assisting the
chairs preparing it, it should be the staff “adding” that
template to what was already sent by the chairs to the
board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">We
really need to know all the details and the real
situation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 10/2/21
5:28, "Madhvi Gokool" <<a
href="mailto:madhvi@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">madhvi@afrinic.net</a>>
escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Hello Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Your queries to staff in email below
refer. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">The co-chairs were made aware of /that
:-</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">the template of the ratification report
to assist them with the function. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">each proposal that is sent for
ratification needs its own report. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">they are responsible to send the
ratification reports to <a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">board@afrinic.net</a> . </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">The Policy Liaison assists them with the
drafting, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Madhvi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On 09/02/2021
12:46 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">Questions for the staff:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">a) There is an internal procedure for that?<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">b) Have the chairs got the relevant instructions?<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">c) Can you copy to the RPD list on a and b above?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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