<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">+1 Dewole<br clear="all"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">..."<b style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:14px">and determine the outcome.</b>"</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">That settles it, at least for now!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best!<br>Tim <./a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:50 AM Dewole Ajao via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Boss, it's the process - and it's been written that way for years
in plain sight. <br>
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<li style="box-sizing:border-box">Anyone may request the recall
of a Working Group Chair at any time, upon written request with
justification to the AFRINIC Board of Directors. The request
must be supported by at least five (5) other persons from the
Working Group. <b>The AFRINIC Board of Directors shall appoint
a recall committee</b>, excluding the persons requesting the
recall and the Working Group Chairs. <b>The recall committee
shall investigate</b> the circumstances of the justification
for the recall <b>and determine the outcome.</b></li>
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<div>The <b>emphasis </b>in there is mine.
It might be beneficial to the working group if you or any others
could offer alternative interpretations of those sentences so we
can look at them together now rather than waste energy litigating
(Assuming it becomes clear who will be suing who :-P). I believe
the process to appeal the contents of the PDP is proposing new
policy text and convincing the group that the text should be
changed.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Dewole.<br>
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<div>On 2/9/2021 10:18 AM, Daniel Yakmut via
RPD wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">This interpretation is subjective, and it is
totally wrong and draconian for the committee to have the powers
of investigation, judgement and execution.
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<div dir="auto">If truly the Recall committee is this powerful
then the process will have be appealed and it is a subject of
litigation.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Simply,</div>
<div dir="auto">Daniel</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 10:05 AM Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:apb.goo@gmail.com" target="_blank">apb.goo@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear PDWG,<br>
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 00:51, Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> No Daniel, the output of the Recall Committee regarding
the<br>
> Co-Chairs is already final (read point 19 from their
report)<br>
> according to whats the CPM says about it, so it does not<br>
> have to be approved by anyone, not even the Board itself.<br>
><br>
> So currently we don't have any Co-Chairs.<br>
<br>
Yes, as far as I understand, the Recall Committee's decision
is final.<br>
Article 3.5(3) of the CPM gives the Recall Committee the power
to<br>
"determine the outcome", not merely to suggest or report to
some other<br>
party. The Board also stated "The Recall Committee will report
the<br>
outcome to the Policy Development Working Group. The decision
of the<br>
Recall Committee is final." (That is in a document from the
Board<br>
that might not have been published, but is referenced from
page 3 of<br>
the Recall Committee's Working Procedure document.)<br>
<br>
The Recall Committee gave their decision in paragraph 19 of
the "Final<br>
Determination" document: "19. The Committee therefore
determines that<br>
a recall of both the co-Chairs is justifiable in the
circumstances,<br>
and that both the co-Chairs be recalled with immediate
effect.".<br>
<br>
> What the Committee has mentioned in the document is for
the<br>
> Board to lead the election of the new Co-Chairs and
determine<br>
> the transition during this interim.<br>
<br>
Yes, the last sentence of paragraph 20 of the Recall
Committee's<br>
report is a suggestion; it is not binding: "The Committee
suggests<br>
that the Board coordinate with the PDWG to find an adequate
transition<br>
mechanism until the next election."<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Alan Barrett<br>
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