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1. Re: Statement from Legal Counsel (Sunday Folayan)<br>
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 12:02:29 +0100<br>
From: Sunday Folayan <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>><br>
To: Mirriam <<a href="mailto:mirriamlauren@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mirriamlauren@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Cc: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel<br>
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Hello Mirriam,<br>
<br>
I have been on Holiday.<br>
<br>
Are you (1) attacking my person, or (2) my past involvement or (3) <br>
moderating my participation or (4) objecting to my rhetorically calling <br>
for a truce between two good friends?<br>
<br>
No, I am not playing Co-Chair. I am not aware that I am banned or <br>
forbidden from writing anything, or for that matter calling for a truce.<br>
<br>
Would you indeed have felt better if I was writing with a pseudo Name?<br>
<br>
Seasons greetings.<br>
<br>
Sunday.<br>
<br>
On 12/18/20 4:03 PM, Mirriam wrote:<br>
> Hi Sunday,<br>
><br>
> Are you now playing co-chair?? Moderating? discussions, deciding which <br>
> discussions are out of scope, while their outcomes could be of <br>
> interest to the WG?<br>
><br>
> I do remember your chairmanship at AFRINIC and wonder why such sudden <br>
> and intense activity from the past chair of the BoD in the PDP.<br>
><br>
> ?Mirriam.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 12:11:18 PM GMT+3, Sunday Folayan <br>
> <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Daniel and Marcus,<br>
><br>
> Gentlemen,<br>
><br>
> Please remove <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> from your <br>
> recipients list and continue your exchanges back-stage. When you have <br>
> consensus, go ahead and then post in on rpd.<br>
><br>
> You two ... Have a great day, and well done for the good cooperative <br>
> work you are doing!<br>
><br>
> Sunday.<br>
><br>
> On 12/16/20 9:07 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:<br>
><br>
> Dear Marcus,<br>
><br>
> I have always understood you shortcomings therefore I wont waste time <br>
> arguing back and forth with you. The PDP the Co-Chairs are not <br>
> following, I suspect is the one defined by you or else I cannot see <br>
> the non-compliance.<br>
><br>
> For the first time you said something reasonable, I agree we cannot <br>
> compromise standards and we need to hold each other accountable. <br>
> However, I have never seen you doing that, because you rather reduce <br>
> discussions to attacks and attempted intimidation as you just did with <br>
> your last mail.<br>
><br>
> Simply<br>
><br>
> Daniel<br>
><br>
> On 15/12/2020 7:45 pm, Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote:<br>
> Hi Daniel<br>
><br>
> I completely understood you and your confusions and diversions.<br>
><br>
> Note that nobody is castigating the cochairs. They serve at cochairs <br>
> as defined by the PDP.<br>
><br>
> You have consistently stated the most outrageous things about this <br>
> community and pointed fingers to members of this community every time <br>
> anyone attempt to caution the cochairs.<br>
><br>
> The cochairs not once but a number of times have failed to follow the <br>
> PDP unless members of the working group ?constantly reminds them to do <br>
> so and when raised you now say hey xyz is castigating cochairs and <br>
> then level personal attacks making it all sour.<br>
><br>
> You need to stop and start accepting that holding each other to the <br>
> high standards is perfectly normal and accountability has nothing to <br>
> do with your endless personal attacks insinuation and division talking <br>
> points.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Marcus<br>
><br>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> *From:* Daniel Yakmut <<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>><br>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 8:07:36 PM<br>
> *To:* Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a>> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> *Cc:* rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>; Ashok <<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a>> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a>>; Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>><br>
> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel<br>
> Dear Marcus,<br>
> Maybe you didn't understand my position, the mess is the attempt by <br>
> some members to continue to lay booby traps everywhere in ?the PWDG.<br>
><br>
> Moreso, I have remained consitent, that the Co-chairs should not be <br>
> castgated for trying to do their work.<br>
><br>
> I love archives because they remind me where I have been and where I <br>
> am possibly heading.<br>
><br>
> Simply<br>
> Daniel<br>
><br>
> On Dec 14, 2020 8:49 PM, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Daniel,<br>
><br>
> Are you discovering the ?mess??<br>
><br>
> The mess is created and maintained when the PDP is no longer<br>
> followed and WG?s powers usurped by people entitled only in an<br>
> administrative roles.<br>
><br>
> When people lose confidence in process system or people, you<br>
> should expect this kind of vigilance and queries for transparency<br>
> and accountability.<br>
><br>
> Knowing where you stand, It is not surprising that you are not<br>
> concerned ?when you saw discussions on policy proposals in that<br>
> context.<br>
><br>
> The archives have records and will convey the responsibility of<br>
> each of us.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Marcus<br>
><br>
><br>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> *From:* Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 10:19:07 AM<br>
> *To:* Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amelnaud@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>>>; Ashok <<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
><br>
> *Cc:* rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel<br>
><br>
> Dear Arnaud,<br>
><br>
> Please are these insinuations for real. How could Co-Chairs<br>
> recommend draft policies for board approval.<br>
><br>
> 1. Are we saying that AfriNIC Staff and Board are oblivious what<br>
> is happening in the RPD that they cannot detect a rogue policy.<br>
><br>
> 2. Some members are literally becoming paranoid.<br>
><br>
> 3. Why are some community members bent in giving a dog a bad name,<br>
> so that it can be hanged.<br>
><br>
> 4. I hope the discerning community members can see through<br>
> shenanigan being thrown around.<br>
><br>
> I will say what a mess!!!<br>
><br>
> Simply<br>
><br>
> Daniel<br>
><br>
> On 13/12/2020 11:35 am, Arnaud AMELINA wrote:<br>
>> Hello, PDWG members<br>
>><br>
>> It appears in recent communications from legal counsel that<br>
>> co-chairs have recommended some draft policies for approval by board.<br>
>><br>
>> Why are the recommendations, including the reports prescribed by<br>
>> section 3.4.4, not published on this rpd for the sake of<br>
>> transparency and the? practices in the matter?<br>
>><br>
>> Where did the resource transfer proposal version 5.0 come from?<br>
>><br>
>> We seem to have abandoned the PDP and its key underlining principles.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Arnaud<br>
>><br>
>> Le mer. 9 d?c. 2020 ? 16:25, Ashok <<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a>>> a ?crit?:<br>
>><br>
>> *Dear Community members,*<br>
>><br>
>> *I refer to AFRINIC?s Chief Executive Officer?s emails dated<br>
>> 30 November 2020 and 03 December 2020 sent to the PDWG?s<br>
>> Co-Chairs to which I was in copy thereof. Copies of the said<br>
>> emails are also herewith attached.*<br>
>><br>
>> *As AFRINIC?s Legal Counsel I wish first to draw your<br>
>> attention to the PDWG?s Co-Chairs? declaration of consensus<br>
>> dated 07 October 2020 in respect of the policy entitled<br>
>> /'Board's Prerogatives'/ ? AFPUB-2020-GEN-004-DRAFT02- as<br>
>> well as the policy entitled /'Resource Transfer Policy'/<br>
>> ?AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04- whereby in the latter case,<br>
>> consensus was initially declared on 07 October 2020 and which<br>
>> was subsequently reversed by the Co-Chairs on 17 October 2020.*<br>
>><br>
>> *I hold no mandate to interfere in the work of the PDWG<br>
>> and/or its independence I shall refrain from doing so.*<br>
>><br>
>> *Nevertheless, I deem it my duty to tender my advice, for<br>
>> whatever it is worth and without in any way pressurising, the<br>
>> PDWG, an AFRINIC-related body to be bound by same.*<br>
>><br>
>> *My advice addresses the aforementioned two policy proposals<br>
>> and my purpose is to ensure that the work of the PDWG thereon<br>
>> as well as its outcome are both legally in order. I have<br>
>> given anxious consideration to this matter and also bear in<br>
>> mind that where the acts and doings of the PDWG are not<br>
>> legally in order, same may have a detrimental effect on the<br>
>> image and reputation of AFRINIC both as a corporate body and<br>
>> responsible RIR. *<br>
>><br>
>> *In regard to the policy entitled /'Board's Prerogatives'/, I<br>
>> have taken note of AFRINIC's Staff Assessment report dated 04<br>
>> November 2020 - **<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/</a><br>
>> proposals/2020-gen-004-d2# impact<br>
>> <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact</a>>**.<br>
>> *<br>
>><br>
>> *You may have noticed that the said report has raised both<br>
>> serious governance and operational issues as well as areas of<br>
>> uncertainty observed in the proposed policy which has, up to<br>
>> now, remained unaddressed. *<br>
>><br>
>> *Consequently, it is my humble view that the PDWG may in its<br>
>> wisdom consider to review its own stand in respect of these<br>
>> policy proposals so as to avoid any form of encroachment,<br>
>> potential or otherwise, onto the Board of Director?s<br>
>> prerogatives, the foundations of which are grounded in<br>
>> articles 3.4 and 15 of the AFRINIC?s bylaws. *<br>
>><br>
>> *However, should the PDWG maintain its stand in respect of<br>
>> the above, then the appropriate motion has to be made during<br>
>> an AGMM, pursuant to Article 7.7 of the bylaws to amend<br>
>> articles 3.4, 15(1), 15(2) and 15(3) of the bylaws thus<br>
>> allowing the powers of the Board of Directors to be subjected<br>
>> to the directives and guidance of the PDWG.*<br>
>><br>
>> *As regard the policy entitled /'Resource Transfer Policy'/,<br>
>> the PDWG may be aware that the said policy (i.e. version 4<br>
>> thereof) is presentlythe subject of an appeal before the<br>
>> Appeal Committee and the matter is yet to be determined. *<br>
>><br>
>> *Consequently, the PDWG is hereby informed and advised that<br>
>> it is a matter of sound and settled legal principle that,<br>
>> pending the outcome of the Appeal Committee proceedings,?it<br>
>> (PDWG) refrains from entertaining any request emanating from<br>
>> the relevant co-authors of the said policy proposals for<br>
>> further amending these proposals on the legal principle of<br>
>> /pendente lite/. It is also my considered view that any<br>
>> attempt in the meantime by the latter to submit a newly<br>
>> purported version of their policy proposal?will be<br>
>> inadmissible (non-receivable) in law. *<br>
>><br>
>> *To close my submission may I urge the PDWG to give due<br>
>> weight to my non-binding legal advice and consequently<br>
>> appreciate the real risk of AFRINIC, in the event that the<br>
>> Appeal proceedings are ignored, having to ratify and<br>
>> implement two policy proposals, on the same subject matter,<br>
>> which would lead to an unprecedented conflictual situation. *<br>
>><br>
>> *Ashok.B.Radhakissoon.*<br>
>><br>
>> *Legal Counsel<br>
>> *<br>
>><br>
>> **<br>
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