<div dir="auto">Nous en prenons actes et souhaite a vous tous une bonne année de prospérité et des grandes réalisations à travers l'Internet pour notre Afrique numérique ici et partout même dans le milieu le plus profond dont les besoins d'utilisation d'internet augmente du jour au jours. <div dir="auto">Voilà notre slogan de l'année 2021:<br><div dir="auto">Ensemble ce possible avec l'internet, pour un épanouissement de notre communauté afrinic.</div><div dir="auto">Internet que vive la numérisation de l'Afrique.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le lun. 11 janv. 2021 à 06:31, <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: RPD Digest, Vol 171, Issue 79 (Kakel Mbumb)<br>
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 05:30:30 +0100<br>
From: Kakel Mbumb <<a href="mailto:kakelmbumb@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kakelmbumb@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
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Bonjour chers membres de la communaut?,<br>
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Tout en vous souhaitant mes meilleurs v?ux pour l'an 2021, j'ose esp?rer<br>
qu'elle nous permettra d'?voluer dans un se s responsable et coh?rent pour<br>
les bienfaits de la gouvernance d'internet au sein de notre espace.<br>
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Que la vision de tout un chacun converge dan un sens commun d'?l?vation et<br>
que les ?changes se fassent de fa?on fructueuse dans le respect de tous et<br>
de chacun.<br>
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Cordialement.<br>
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Le lun. 28 d?c. 2020 ? 12:04, <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> a ?crit :<br>
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 12:02:29 +0100<br>
> From: Sunday Folayan <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>><br>
> To: Mirriam <<a href="mailto:mirriamlauren@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mirriamlauren@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:5dd28888-5efe-4e7f-c287-5214e17aa275@skannet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">5dd28888-5efe-4e7f-c287-5214e17aa275@skannet.com</a>><br>
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> Hello Mirriam,<br>
><br>
> I have been on Holiday.<br>
><br>
> Are you (1) attacking my person, or (2) my past involvement or (3)<br>
> moderating my participation or (4) objecting to my rhetorically calling<br>
> for a truce between two good friends?<br>
><br>
> No, I am not playing Co-Chair. I am not aware that I am banned or<br>
> forbidden from writing anything, or for that matter calling for a truce.<br>
><br>
> Would you indeed have felt better if I was writing with a pseudo Name?<br>
><br>
> Seasons greetings.<br>
><br>
> Sunday.<br>
><br>
> On 12/18/20 4:03 PM, Mirriam wrote:<br>
> > Hi Sunday,<br>
> ><br>
> > Are you now playing co-chair?? Moderating? discussions, deciding which<br>
> > discussions are out of scope, while their outcomes could be of<br>
> > interest to the WG?<br>
> ><br>
> > I do remember your chairmanship at AFRINIC and wonder why such sudden<br>
> > and intense activity from the past chair of the BoD in the PDP.<br>
> ><br>
> > ?Mirriam.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 12:11:18 PM GMT+3, Sunday Folayan<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Daniel and Marcus,<br>
> ><br>
> > Gentlemen,<br>
> ><br>
> > Please remove <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> from your<br>
> > recipients list and continue your exchanges back-stage. When you have<br>
> > consensus, go ahead and then post in on rpd.<br>
> ><br>
> > You two ... Have a great day, and well done for the good cooperative<br>
> > work you are doing!<br>
> ><br>
> > Sunday.<br>
> ><br>
> > On 12/16/20 9:07 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Dear Marcus,<br>
> ><br>
> > I have always understood you shortcomings therefore I wont waste time<br>
> > arguing back and forth with you. The PDP the Co-Chairs are not<br>
> > following, I suspect is the one defined by you or else I cannot see<br>
> > the non-compliance.<br>
> ><br>
> > For the first time you said something reasonable, I agree we cannot<br>
> > compromise standards and we need to hold each other accountable.<br>
> > However, I have never seen you doing that, because you rather reduce<br>
> > discussions to attacks and attempted intimidation as you just did with<br>
> > your last mail.<br>
> ><br>
> > Simply<br>
> ><br>
> > Daniel<br>
> ><br>
> > On 15/12/2020 7:45 pm, Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote:<br>
> > Hi Daniel<br>
> ><br>
> > I completely understood you and your confusions and diversions.<br>
> ><br>
> > Note that nobody is castigating the cochairs. They serve at cochairs<br>
> > as defined by the PDP.<br>
> ><br>
> > You have consistently stated the most outrageous things about this<br>
> > community and pointed fingers to members of this community every time<br>
> > anyone attempt to caution the cochairs.<br>
> ><br>
> > The cochairs not once but a number of times have failed to follow the<br>
> > PDP unless members of the working group ?constantly reminds them to do<br>
> > so and when raised you now say hey xyz is castigating cochairs and<br>
> > then level personal attacks making it all sour.<br>
> ><br>
> > You need to stop and start accepting that holding each other to the<br>
> > high standards is perfectly normal and accountability has nothing to<br>
> > do with your endless personal attacks insinuation and division talking<br>
> > points.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Marcus<br>
> ><br>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> > *From:* Daniel Yakmut <<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>><br>
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 8:07:36 PM<br>
> > *To:* Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> > *Cc:* rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>; Ashok <<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a>>; Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel<br>
> > Dear Marcus,<br>
> > Maybe you didn't understand my position, the mess is the attempt by<br>
> > some members to continue to lay booby traps everywhere in ?the PWDG.<br>
> ><br>
> > Moreso, I have remained consitent, that the Co-chairs should not be<br>
> > castgated for trying to do their work.<br>
> ><br>
> > I love archives because they remind me where I have been and where I<br>
> > am possibly heading.<br>
> ><br>
> > Simply<br>
> > Daniel<br>
> ><br>
> > On Dec 14, 2020 8:49 PM, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Daniel,<br>
> ><br>
> > Are you discovering the ?mess??<br>
> ><br>
> > The mess is created and maintained when the PDP is no longer<br>
> > followed and WG?s powers usurped by people entitled only in an<br>
> > administrative roles.<br>
> ><br>
> > When people lose confidence in process system or people, you<br>
> > should expect this kind of vigilance and queries for transparency<br>
> > and accountability.<br>
> ><br>
> > Knowing where you stand, It is not surprising that you are not<br>
> > concerned ?when you saw discussions on policy proposals in that<br>
> > context.<br>
> ><br>
> > The archives have records and will convey the responsibility of<br>
> > each of us.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Marcus<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> > *From:* Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 10:19:07 AM<br>
> > *To:* Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amelnaud@gmail.com</a><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>>>; Ashok <<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
> ><br>
> > *Cc:* rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>><br>
> > *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel<br>
> ><br>
> > Dear Arnaud,<br>
> ><br>
> > Please are these insinuations for real. How could Co-Chairs<br>
> > recommend draft policies for board approval.<br>
> ><br>
> > 1. Are we saying that AfriNIC Staff and Board are oblivious what<br>
> > is happening in the RPD that they cannot detect a rogue policy.<br>
> ><br>
> > 2. Some members are literally becoming paranoid.<br>
> ><br>
> > 3. Why are some community members bent in giving a dog a bad name,<br>
> > so that it can be hanged.<br>
> ><br>
> > 4. I hope the discerning community members can see through<br>
> > shenanigan being thrown around.<br>
> ><br>
> > I will say what a mess!!!<br>
> ><br>
> > Simply<br>
> ><br>
> > Daniel<br>
> ><br>
> > On 13/12/2020 11:35 am, Arnaud AMELINA wrote:<br>
> >> Hello, PDWG members<br>
> >><br>
> >> It appears in recent communications from legal counsel that<br>
> >> co-chairs have recommended some draft policies for approval by<br>
> board.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Why are the recommendations, including the reports prescribed by<br>
> >> section 3.4.4, not published on this rpd for the sake of<br>
> >> transparency and the? practices in the matter?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Where did the resource transfer proposal version 5.0 come from?<br>
> >><br>
> >> We seem to have abandoned the PDP and its key underlining<br>
> principles.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Regards<br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Arnaud<br>
> >><br>
> >> Le mer. 9 d?c. 2020 ? 16:25, Ashok <<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a><br>
> >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ashok@afrinic.net</a>>> a ?crit?:<br>
> >><br>
> >> *Dear Community members,*<br>
> >><br>
> >> *I refer to AFRINIC?s Chief Executive Officer?s emails dated<br>
> >> 30 November 2020 and 03 December 2020 sent to the PDWG?s<br>
> >> Co-Chairs to which I was in copy thereof. Copies of the said<br>
> >> emails are also herewith attached.*<br>
> >><br>
> >> *As AFRINIC?s Legal Counsel I wish first to draw your<br>
> >> attention to the PDWG?s Co-Chairs? declaration of consensus<br>
> >> dated 07 October 2020 in respect of the policy entitled<br>
> >> /'Board's Prerogatives'/ ? AFPUB-2020-GEN-004-DRAFT02- as<br>
> >> well as the policy entitled /'Resource Transfer Policy'/<br>
> >> ?AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04- whereby in the latter case,<br>
> >> consensus was initially declared on 07 October 2020 and which<br>
> >> was subsequently reversed by the Co-Chairs on 17 October 2020.*<br>
> >><br>
> >> *I hold no mandate to interfere in the work of the PDWG<br>
> >> and/or its independence I shall refrain from doing so.*<br>
> >><br>
> >> *Nevertheless, I deem it my duty to tender my advice, for<br>
> >> whatever it is worth and without in any way pressurising, the<br>
> >> PDWG, an AFRINIC-related body to be bound by same.*<br>
> >><br>
> >> *My advice addresses the aforementioned two policy proposals<br>
> >> and my purpose is to ensure that the work of the PDWG thereon<br>
> >> as well as its outcome are both legally in order. I have<br>
> >> given anxious consideration to this matter and also bear in<br>
> >> mind that where the acts and doings of the PDWG are not<br>
> >> legally in order, same may have a detrimental effect on the<br>
> >> image and reputation of AFRINIC both as a corporate body and<br>
> >> responsible RIR. *<br>
> >><br>
> >> *In regard to the policy entitled /'Board's Prerogatives'/, I<br>
> >> have taken note of AFRINIC's Staff Assessment report dated 04<br>
> >> November 2020 - **<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/</a><br>
> >> proposals/2020-gen-004-d2# impact<br>
> >> <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact</a><br>
> >**.<br>
> >> *<br>
> >><br>
> >> *You may have noticed that the said report has raised both<br>
> >> serious governance and operational issues as well as areas of<br>
> >> uncertainty observed in the proposed policy which has, up to<br>
> >> now, remained unaddressed. *<br>
> >><br>
> >> *Consequently, it is my humble view that the PDWG may in its<br>
> >> wisdom consider to review its own stand in respect of these<br>
> >> policy proposals so as to avoid any form of encroachment,<br>
> >> potential or otherwise, onto the Board of Director?s<br>
> >> prerogatives, the foundations of which are grounded in<br>
> >> articles 3.4 and 15 of the AFRINIC?s bylaws. *<br>
> >><br>
> >> *However, should the PDWG maintain its stand in respect of<br>
> >> the above, then the appropriate motion has to be made during<br>
> >> an AGMM, pursuant to Article 7.7 of the bylaws to amend<br>
> >> articles 3.4, 15(1), 15(2) and 15(3) of the bylaws thus<br>
> >> allowing the powers of the Board of Directors to be subjected<br>
> >> to the directives and guidance of the PDWG.*<br>
> >><br>
> >> *As regard the policy entitled /'Resource Transfer Policy'/,<br>
> >> the PDWG may be aware that the said policy (i.e. version 4<br>
> >> thereof) is presentlythe subject of an appeal before the<br>
> >> Appeal Committee and the matter is yet to be determined. *<br>
> >><br>
> >> *Consequently, the PDWG is hereby informed and advised that<br>
> >> it is a matter of sound and settled legal principle that,<br>
> >> pending the outcome of the Appeal Committee proceedings,?it<br>
> >> (PDWG) refrains from entertaining any request emanating from<br>
> >> the relevant co-authors of the said policy proposals for<br>
> >> further amending these proposals on the legal principle of<br>
> >> /pendente lite/. It is also my considered view that any<br>
> >> attempt in the meantime by the latter to submit a newly<br>
> >> purported version of their policy proposal?will be<br>
> >> inadmissible (non-receivable) in law. *<br>
> >><br>
> >> *To close my submission may I urge the PDWG to give due<br>
> >> weight to my non-binding legal advice and consequently<br>
> >> appreciate the real risk of AFRINIC, in the event that the<br>
> >> Appeal proceedings are ignored, having to ratify and<br>
> >> implement two policy proposals, on the same subject matter,<br>
> >> which would lead to an unprecedented conflictual situation. *<br>
> >><br>
> >> *Ashok.B.Radhakissoon.*<br>
> >><br>
> >> *Legal Counsel<br>
> >> *<br>
> >><br>
> >> **<br>
> >><br>
> >> *<br>
> >><br>
> >> *<br>
> >><br>
> >> **<br>
> >><br>
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