<div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto">Dear Cochairs,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is it normal that out of 2 cochairs, none is contact of a resource member?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I thought you were subscribed on members list either as contact of a resource member or simply as cochair.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Having a cochair who runs network and serves as contact (technical) of a resource member is a big wish as previously discussed in this community.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In case we end up with a good cochair who is not on member list, the current proposal PDP Working Group (WG) Guidelines and Procedures addresses this issue at section 3.3.1.</div><div dir="auto">++++</div><div dir="auto">The co-chairs coordinate the activities of the policy development’s working group and are expected to attend all AFRINIC Public Policy Meetings. They must remain subscribed to the AFRINIC Policy Discussion mailing list for the duration of their term and must also be subscribed to the AFRINIC members-discuss mailing list during their term.</div><div dir="auto">+++++</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">On the other hand, as cochairs you should know at the current state, that IP addresses are not owned. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We shall be following the same rules and principles when discussing and making policies.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--</div><div dir="auto">Arnaud </div><div dir="auto"><br></div>!!! Merry Christmas !!! To all <br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 18 déc. 2020 à 05:41, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <<a href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng">oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Dear Noah,<div dir="auto">Neither of the Co-chairs is subscribed to the Members list, as we do not own a single IP.</div><div dir="auto">The Members list is not an extension of the rpd. We only took into consideration issues raised on the rpd mailing list. </div><div dir="auto">We care about AFRINIC and to the best of our ability, we shall do what we think is best for the community as directed by the community.</div><div>Can we please confirm some of these things rather than making a false accusation on the mailing list?</div><div><br></div><div>Co-Chairs</div><div>PDWG</div><div dir="auto"> </div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 17 Dec 2020, 20:46 Noah, <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Sunday,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 15 Dec 2020, 19:27 Sunday Folayan, <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sfolayan@skannet.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
1. The Co-Chairs followed the process as contained in the CPM.</div></blockquote></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Take your time and go through the archives before you make such claims.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">FWIW, read also the various appeal documents that were submitted to AC and extensively supported by members of this working group before you claim cochairs followed the process.</div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>2. An impact Assessment was made initially. Legal opinion should
have been sought at that point. <br>
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<p>3. Another impact assessment was made after the policy has
reached consensus. Which is fine, no need to panic</p></div></blockquote></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Those impact assessment are important in ensuring that policy development process and when cochair ignore them then its a problem.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>4. If indeed the PDWG overstepped its bound, the Board can simply
not approve the policy, and explain why, to the PDWG. <br></p></div></blockquote></div><div dir="auto">To my understanding and Madhvi can confirm this, the cochairs (Abdulkarim and Moses) are subscribed to the members list, and a resource members and others reached out to Afrinic with queries on impact of the controversial **resource transfer policy** the very cochairs purported to have achieved consensus.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The feedback from AFRINIC members services speaks for itself and you very well know what it is because you also contributed to that discussion.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Did cochair also take those concerns from AFRINIC members services into considering when they in their purported second declaration of consensus after retracting the their initial declaration of consensus or they ignored those concerns like they ignored have showed to careless about AFRINIC staff impact analysis of DPP.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p>5. There was no need sharing herein, the Email from the CEO to
the Co-Chairs. What was that supposed to achieve? <br></p></div></blockquote></div><div dir="auto">The last I checked, openness and transparency is what this community has been asking for from AFRINIC leadership for years. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Todays leadership is ensuring that unless ofcourse you have a problem with that.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kudos to the legal counsel and CEO for their attempt to share their opinion with this community and the workinggroup after all they are custodian of the organization AFRINIC last I checked.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah</div></div>
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