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<p>Daniel and Marcus,</p>
<p>Gentlemen,</p>
<p>Please remove <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a> from your recipients list and
continue your exchanges back-stage. When you have consensus, go
ahead and then post in on rpd.</p>
<p>You two ... Have a great day, and well done for the good
cooperative work you are doing!</p>
<p>Sunday.<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/16/20 9:07 AM, Daniel Yakmut via
RPD wrote:<br>
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<p>Dear Marcus,</p>
<p>I have always understood you shortcomings therefore I wont
waste time arguing back and forth with you. The PDP the
Co-Chairs are not following, I suspect is the one defined by you
or else I cannot see the non-compliance.</p>
<p>For the first time you said something reasonable, I agree we
cannot compromise standards and we need to hold each other
accountable. However, I have never seen you doing that, because
you rather reduce discussions to attacks and attempted
intimidation as you just did with your last mail.</p>
<p>Simply</p>
<p>Daniel<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/12/2020 7:45 pm, Marcus K. G.
Adomey wrote:<br>
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255, 255); text-align: left;" dir="auto"> Hi Daniel
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<div>I completely understood you and your confusions and
diversions.</div>
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<div>Note that nobody is castigating the cochairs. They serve
at cochairs as defined by the PDP.</div>
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<div>You have consistently stated the most outrageous things
about this community and pointed fingers to members of this
community every time anyone attempt to caution the cochairs.</div>
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<div>The cochairs not once but a number of times have failed
to follow the PDP unless members of the working group
constantly reminds them to do so and when raised you now
say hey xyz is castigating cochairs and then level personal
attacks making it all sour.</div>
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<div>You need to stop and start accepting that holding each
other to the high standards is perfectly normal and
accountability has nothing to do with your endless personal
attacks insinuation and division talking points.</div>
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Marcus<br>
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face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
Daniel Yakmut <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><yakmutd@googlemail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 14, 2020 8:07:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marcus K. G. Adomey <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><madomey@hotmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><rpd@afrinic.net></a>;
Ashok <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><ashok@afrinic.net></a>;
Arnaud AMELINA <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><amelnaud@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal Counsel</font>
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<div dir="auto">Dear Marcus,
<div dir="auto">Maybe you didn't understand my position, the
mess is the attempt by some members to continue to lay
booby traps everywhere in the PWDG.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Moreso, I have remained consitent, that the
Co-chairs should not be castgated for trying to do their
work.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I love archives because they remind me where
I have been and where I am possibly heading.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Simply</div>
<div dir="auto">Daniel</div>
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<div class="x_gmail_quote">On Dec 14, 2020 8:49 PM, "Marcus
K. G. Adomey" <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>
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Hi Daniel,
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<div>Are you discovering the “mess”?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The mess is created and maintained when the PDP
is no longer followed and WG’s powers usurped by
people entitled only in an administrative roles.</div>
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<div>When people lose confidence in process system
or people, you should expect this kind of
vigilance and queries for transparency and
accountability.</div>
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</div>
<div>Knowing where you stand, It is not surprising
that you are not concerned when you saw
discussions on policy proposals in that context.</div>
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</div>
<div>The archives have records and will convey the
responsibility of each of us. </div>
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Marcus<br>
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dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 14, 2020 10:19:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Arnaud AMELINA <<a
href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>>;
Ashok <<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ashok@afrinic.net</a>>
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<b>Cc:</b> rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy
<<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Statement from Legal
Counsel</div>
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<p>Dear Arnaud, <br>
</p>
<div class="x_elided-text">
<p>Please are these insinuations for real. How
could Co-Chairs recommend draft policies for
board approval. <br>
</p>
<p>1. Are we saying that AfriNIC Staff and Board
are oblivious what is happening in the RPD that
they cannot detect a rogue policy.</p>
<p>2. Some members are literally becoming
paranoid.</p>
<p>3. Why are some community members bent in
giving a dog a bad name, so that it can be
hanged.</p>
<p>4. I hope the discerning community members can
see through shenanigan being thrown around.</p>
<p>I will say what a mess!!!</p>
<p>Simply</p>
<p>Daniel<br>
</p>
<div>On 13/12/2020 11:35 am, Arnaud AMELINA wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hello, PDWG members </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">It appears in recent
communications from legal counsel that
co-chairs have recommended some draft
policies for approval by board.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Why are the recommendations,
including the reports prescribed by section
3.4.4, not published on this rpd for the
sake of transparency and the practices in
the matter?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Where did the resource
transfer proposal version 5.0 come from?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">We seem to have abandoned the
PDP and its key underlining principles.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Regards </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">--</div>
<div dir="auto">Arnaud </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Le mer. 9 déc. 2020 à 16:25,
Ashok <<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ashok@afrinic.net</a>>
a écrit :<br>
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<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>Dear
Community members,</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>I refer to
AFRINIC’s Chief Executive Officer’s
emails dated 30 November 2020 and 03
December 2020 sent to the PDWG’s
Co-Chairs to which I was in copy
thereof. Copies of the said emails
are also herewith attached.</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>As
AFRINIC’s Legal Counsel I wish first
to draw your attention to the PDWG’s
Co-Chairs’ declaration of consensus
dated 07 October 2020 in respect of
the policy entitled <i>'Board's
Prerogatives'</i> –
AFPUB-2020-GEN-004-DRAFT02- as well
as the policy entitled <i>'Resource
Transfer Policy'</i>
–AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04- whereby
in the latter case, consensus was
initially declared on 07 October
2020 and which was subsequently
reversed by the Co-Chairs on 17
October 2020.</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>I hold no
mandate to interfere in the work of
the PDWG and/or its independence I
shall refrain from doing so.</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>Nevertheless,
I deem it my duty to tender my
advice, for whatever it is worth and
without in any way pressurising, the
PDWG, an AFRINIC-related body to be
bound by same.</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>My advice
addresses the aforementioned two
policy proposals <span> </span>and
my purpose is to ensure that the
work of the PDWG thereon <span> </span>as
well as its outcome are both legally
in order. I have given anxious
consideration to this matter and
also bear in mind that where the
acts and doings of the PDWG are not
legally in order, same may have a
detrimental effect on the image and
reputation of AFRINIC both as a
corporate body and responsible RIR.
</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>In regard
to the policy entitled <i>'Board's
Prerogatives'</i>, I have taken
note of AFRINIC's Staff Assessment
report dated 04 November 2020 - </span></b><b><span
style="font-family:"Garamond","serif""><a
href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span>https://afrinic.net/policy/<wbr>proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#<wbr>impact</span></a></span></b><b><span>.
</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>You may
have noticed that the said report
has raised both serious governance
and operational issues as well as
areas of uncertainty observed in the
proposed policy which has, up to
now, remained unaddressed. </span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>Consequently,
it is my humble view that the PDWG
may in its wisdom consider to review
its own stand in respect of these
policy proposals so as to avoid any
form of encroachment, potential or
otherwise, <span> </span>onto the
Board of Director’s prerogatives,
the foundations of which are
grounded in articles 3.4 and 15 of
the AFRINIC’s bylaws. </span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>However,
should the PDWG maintain its stand
in respect of the above, then the
appropriate motion has to be made
during an AGMM, pursuant to Article
7.7 of the bylaws to amend articles
3.4, 15(1), 15(2) and 15(3) of the
bylaws thus allowing the powers of
the Board of Directors to be
subjected to the directives and
guidance of the PDWG.</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>As regard
the policy entitled <i>'Resource
Transfer Policy'</i>, the PDWG may
be aware that the said policy (i.e.
version 4 thereof) is presently<s> </s>the
subject of an appeal before the
Appeal Committee and the matter is
yet to be determined. </span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>Consequently,
the PDWG is hereby informed and
advised that it is a matter of sound
and settled legal principle that,
pending the outcome of the Appeal
Committee proceedings, it (PDWG)
refrains from entertaining any
request emanating from the relevant
co-authors of the said policy
proposals for further amending these
proposals on the legal principle of
<i>pendente lite</i>. It is also my
considered view that any attempt in
the meantime by the latter to submit
a newly purported version of their
policy proposal will be inadmissible
(non-receivable) in law. </span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>To close my
submission may I urge the PDWG to
give due weight to my non-binding
legal advice and consequently
appreciate the real risk of AFRINIC,
in the event that the Appeal
proceedings are ignored, having to
ratify and implement two policy
proposals, on the same subject
matter, which would lead to an
unprecedented conflictual situation.
</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>Ashok.B.Radhakissoon.</span></b></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;
line-height:normal"><b><span>Legal
Counsel<br>
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