<div dir="auto">Hi Members, if a policy proposal has reached a point for board"s (AfriNIC) action. How does it get communicated. Because, I am.getting confused here.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What Frank quoted showed clearly the community was informed on the progress of the proposal and the directions the document was moving. So I don't see connivance of any form.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So why crying wolf.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Simply</div><div dir="auto">Daniel</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 14, 2020 11:28 AM, "Frank Habicht" <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
On 14/12/2020 13:19, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:<br>
> Dear Arnaud,<br>
> <br>
> Please are these insinuations for real. How could Co-Chairs recommend<br>
> draft policies for board approval.<br>
<br>
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5. *We believe that the proposal AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04 (Resource<br>
Transfer Policy) has successfully reached Consensus and we shall be<br>
forwarding same to the AFRINIC board for ratification. *<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Frank<br>
<br>
> 1. Are we saying that AfriNIC Staff and Board are oblivious what is<br>
> happening in the RPD that they cannot detect a rogue policy.<br>
> <br>
> 2. Some members are literally becoming paranoid.<br>
> <br>
> 3. Why are some community members bent in giving a dog a bad name, so<br>
> that it can be hanged.<br>
> <br>
> 4. I hope the discerning community members can see through shenanigan<br>
> being thrown around.<br>
> <br>
> I will say what a mess!!!<br>
> <br>
> Simply<br>
> <br>
> Daniel<br>
> <br>
> On 13/12/2020 11:35 am, Arnaud AMELINA wrote:<br>
>> Hello, PDWG members <br>
>><br>
>> It appears in recent communications from legal counsel that co-chairs<br>
>> have recommended some draft policies for approval by board.<br>
>><br>
>> Why are the recommendations, including the reports prescribed by<br>
>> section 3.4.4, not published on this rpd for the sake of transparency<br>
>> and the practices in the matter?<br>
>><br>
>> Where did the resource transfer proposal version 5.0 come from?<br>
>><br>
>> We seem to have abandoned the PDP and its key underlining principles.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards <br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Arnaud <br>
>><br>
>> Le mer. 9 déc. 2020 à 16:25, Ashok <<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net">ashok@afrinic.net</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net">ashok@afrinic.net</a>>> a écrit :<br>
>><br>
>> *Dear Community members,*<br>
>><br>
>> *I refer to AFRINIC’s Chief Executive Officer’s emails dated 30<br>
>> November 2020 and 03 December 2020 sent to the PDWG’s Co-Chairs to<br>
>> which I was in copy thereof. Copies of the said emails are also<br>
>> herewith attached.*<br>
>><br>
>> *As AFRINIC’s Legal Counsel I wish first to draw your attention to<br>
>> the PDWG’s Co-Chairs’ declaration of consensus dated 07 October<br>
>> 2020 in respect of the policy entitled /'Board's Prerogatives'/ –<br>
>> AFPUB-2020-GEN-004-DRAFT02- as well as the policy entitled<br>
>> /'Resource Transfer Policy'/ –AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04- whereby<br>
>> in the latter case, consensus was initially declared on 07 October<br>
>> 2020 and which was subsequently reversed by the Co-Chairs on 17<br>
>> October 2020.*<br>
>><br>
>> *I hold no mandate to interfere in the work of the PDWG and/or its<br>
>> independence I shall refrain from doing so.*<br>
>><br>
>> *Nevertheless, I deem it my duty to tender my advice, for whatever<br>
>> it is worth and without in any way pressurising, the PDWG, an<br>
>> AFRINIC-related body to be bound by same.*<br>
>><br>
>> *My advice addresses the aforementioned two policy proposals and<br>
>> my purpose is to ensure that the work of the PDWG thereon as well<br>
>> as its outcome are both legally in order. I have given anxious<br>
>> consideration to this matter and also bear in mind that where the<br>
>> acts and doings of the PDWG are not legally in order, same may<br>
>> have a detrimental effect on the image and reputation of AFRINIC<br>
>> both as a corporate body and responsible RIR. *<br>
>><br>
>> *In regard to the policy entitled /'Board's Prerogatives'/, I have<br>
>> taken note of AFRINIC's Staff Assessment report dated 04 November<br>
>> 2020 -<br>
>> **<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/<wbr>proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#<wbr>impact</a><br>
>> <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#impact" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/<wbr>proposals/2020-gen-004-d2#<wbr>impact</a>>**. *<br>
>><br>
>> *You may have noticed that the said report has raised both serious<br>
>> governance and operational issues as well as areas of uncertainty<br>
>> observed in the proposed policy which has, up to now, remained<br>
>> unaddressed. *<br>
>><br>
>> *Consequently, it is my humble view that the PDWG may in its<br>
>> wisdom consider to review its own stand in respect of these policy<br>
>> proposals so as to avoid any form of encroachment, potential or<br>
>> otherwise, onto the Board of Director’s prerogatives, the<br>
>> foundations of which are grounded in articles 3.4 and 15 of the<br>
>> AFRINIC’s bylaws. *<br>
>><br>
>> *However, should the PDWG maintain its stand in respect of the<br>
>> above, then the appropriate motion has to be made during an AGMM,<br>
>> pursuant to Article 7.7 of the bylaws to amend articles 3.4,<br>
>> 15(1), 15(2) and 15(3) of the bylaws thus allowing the powers of<br>
>> the Board of Directors to be subjected to the directives and<br>
>> guidance of the PDWG.*<br>
>><br>
>> *As regard the policy entitled /'Resource Transfer Policy'/, the<br>
>> PDWG may be aware that the said policy (i.e. version 4 thereof) is<br>
>> presentlythe subject of an appeal before the Appeal Committee and<br>
>> the matter is yet to be determined. *<br>
>><br>
>> *Consequently, the PDWG is hereby informed and advised that it is<br>
>> a matter of sound and settled legal principle that, pending the<br>
>> outcome of the Appeal Committee proceedings, it (PDWG) refrains<br>
>> from entertaining any request emanating from the relevant<br>
>> co-authors of the said policy proposals for further amending these<br>
>> proposals on the legal principle of /pendente lite/. It is also my<br>
>> considered view that any attempt in the meantime by the latter to<br>
>> submit a newly purported version of their policy proposal will be<br>
>> inadmissible (non-receivable) in law. *<br>
>><br>
>> *To close my submission may I urge the PDWG to give due weight to<br>
>> my non-binding legal advice and consequently appreciate the real<br>
>> risk of AFRINIC, in the event that the Appeal proceedings are<br>
>> ignored, having to ratify and implement two policy proposals, on<br>
>> the same subject matter, which would lead to an unprecedented<br>
>> conflictual situation. *<br>
>><br>
>> *Ashok.B.Radhakissoon.*<br>
>><br>
>> *Legal Counsel<br>
>> *<br>
>><br>
>> * *<br>
>><br>
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