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    <p>Dear Wijdane,</p>
    <p>I guess you are right. Everyone can pretty-well keep repeating
      their own lines, without seeking consensus, and chaos can continue
      to reign.</p>
    <p>I got your point now.<br>
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    <p>Enjoy your weekend.<br>
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    <p>Sunday.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/5/20 5:04 PM, Wijdane Goubi
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear Sunday,
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          I would like to start by saying that the RPD is thankfully a
          free democratic list where everyone is allowed and has the
          right to openly share and freely express their opinions and
          nothing will ever stop me from always giving my points of view
          in a detailed, straightforward manner. <br>
          As for the “we” pronounce, it was on behalf of some community
          members, including me, who have mentioned that the CPM is not
          as clear as it seems to be on its face and is way more
          complicated than it first appears. Moreover, each member of
          the community might be approaching things a little differently
          which can lead us to unreasonable explanations and unnecessary
          opinions. Likewise, some sections of the CPM have been
          explained from a certain perspective to align with certain
          members interests and benefits and nothing can guarantee that
          these assumptions are the true meaning of what was stated in
          the CPM, as it can be interpreted and misinterpreted in so
          many ways.</div>
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          Regards,<br>
          Wijdane.<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le sam. 5 déc. 2020 à 10:26,
          Sunday Folayan <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com"
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            <p>Well said Noah.</p>
            <p>I sincerely hope that the Co-Chairs will take correction
              hence. I equally appeal to their unpaid advocates to see
              what the exact issues that need attention are, much more
              above any form of personal attacks that some people may
              deliberately launch, thereby masking the real issues.<br>
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            <p>We must now focus on issues and ignore those baseless
              distractions.<br>
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            <p>Co-Chairs are human, they have better learning algorithms
              than the best AI. Invoke it!<br>
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            <p>Sunday.<br>
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                <div dir="auto">On the contrary, the working group
                  understanding,  cooperation and trust in the cochairs
                  is only possible when cochairs dont undermine and
                  disregard the WG rules of engagement (PDP) enshrined
                  in the Afrinic CPM.</div>
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                <div dir="auto">Not once but twice, the cochairs have
                  attempted to selectively chose what policy proposal
                  you wish to advance.</div>
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                <div dir="auto">Whether its the controversial resources
                  transfer proposal or now this new controversial recall
                  proposal, its the disregard of the policy development
                  process that makes members of this working group to
                  fail to understand cooperate and trust in your efforts
                  as cochairs.</div>
                <div dir="auto"><br>
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                <div dir="auto">By the way, there is nothing wrong with
                  the recall proposal. However, its we the working group
                  with the mandate to determine its fate through the
                  policy development process. </div>
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                <div dir="auto">Which is;</div>
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                <div dir="auto">1. Authors submit a draft to the rpd
                  list for consideration.</div>
                <div dir="auto">2. Afrinic staff records it and
                  publishes it with an ID.</div>
                <div dir="auto">3. The working group then takes it time
                  to discuss the draft proposal.</div>
                <div dir="auto">4. In the next PPM, the draft proposal
                  is then added to the PPM Agenda by cochairs.</div>
                <div dir="auto">5. Its authors presents the proposal to
                  the working group who would engage with the authors
                  for more discussions and clarification etc.</div>
                <div dir="auto">6.Afrinic staff would then also present
                  their staff impact assessment and analysis.</div>
                <div dir="auto">7. The cochairs would then based on all
                  the above process determine if the draft proposal was
                  attained rough consensus or not.</div>
                <div dir="auto">8. If there is rough consensus then
                  cochair would give the WG more time during last call
                  for final discussions which may include editorial
                  changes etc.</div>
                <div dir="auto">9. Otherwise the draft proposal would
                  have to go back to the WG list for futher discussion.</div>
                <div dir="auto">10. The determination of whether the
                  proposal needs a waiver of the working group cochair
                  to invoke section 3.6 due to an emergency would come
                  at this stage.</div>
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                <div dir="auto">So you can clearly see that the policy
                  development process has its timelines and its never
                  rushed because AFRINIC above all, is affected by each
                  and every action that is taken through the community
                  bottom up process.</div>
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                <div dir="auto">Therefore, when cochairs attempt to
                  invoke section 3.6 while disregarding the above laid
                  out process from 1 - 9 and rush to attempt to vary the
                  process, is what makes the working group loose trust
                  and fail to cooperate as you have seen with all the
                  backlash from various members of this working group. </div>
                <div dir="auto"><br>
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                <div dir="auto">You can indeed claim that there was a
                  call by someone in the working group, requesting you
                  to invoke section 3.6. Its indeed within that person
                  right to request whatever they want. But its within
                  your wisdom as cochair to know better and know the
                  process and inform the said member that what they are
                  requesting is impossible since the CPM is clear on how
                  each new Draft Policy Proposal is treated as per the
                  PDP.</div>
                <div dir="auto"><br>
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                <div dir="auto">I shall therefore reiterate that you
                  give respect to the PDP process for once and fwiw
                  there is no emergency here but what seems like serious
                  confusion and/or lack of understanding in the part of
                  the cochairs and the person who called for the process
                  to be disregarded by cochairs. </div>
                <div dir="auto"><br>
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                <div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Whatever
                    we do, always think AFRINIC at the back of your
                    mind. We shall not compromise AFRINIC.</span></div>
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                <div dir="auto">Noah</div>
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