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<p>Dear Wijdane,</p>
<p>I guess you are right. Everyone can pretty-well keep repeating
their own lines, without seeking consensus, and chaos can continue
to reign.</p>
<p>I got your point now.<br>
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<p>Enjoy your weekend.<br>
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<p>Sunday.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/5/20 5:04 PM, Wijdane Goubi
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Sunday,
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I would like to start by saying that the RPD is thankfully a
free democratic list where everyone is allowed and has the
right to openly share and freely express their opinions and
nothing will ever stop me from always giving my points of view
in a detailed, straightforward manner. <br>
As for the “we” pronounce, it was on behalf of some community
members, including me, who have mentioned that the CPM is not
as clear as it seems to be on its face and is way more
complicated than it first appears. Moreover, each member of
the community might be approaching things a little differently
which can lead us to unreasonable explanations and unnecessary
opinions. Likewise, some sections of the CPM have been
explained from a certain perspective to align with certain
members interests and benefits and nothing can guarantee that
these assumptions are the true meaning of what was stated in
the CPM, as it can be interpreted and misinterpreted in so
many ways.</div>
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Regards,<br>
Wijdane.<br>
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Sunday Folayan <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com"
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<p>Well said Noah.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope that the Co-Chairs will take correction
hence. I equally appeal to their unpaid advocates to see
what the exact issues that need attention are, much more
above any form of personal attacks that some people may
deliberately launch, thereby masking the real issues.<br>
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<p>We must now focus on issues and ignore those baseless
distractions.<br>
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<p>Co-Chairs are human, they have better learning algorithms
than the best AI. Invoke it!<br>
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<p>Sunday.<br>
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thank you for
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understanding,
cooperation and
the continued
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<div dir="auto">On the contrary, the working group
understanding, cooperation and trust in the cochairs
is only possible when cochairs dont undermine and
disregard the WG rules of engagement (PDP) enshrined
in the Afrinic CPM.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Not once but twice, the cochairs have
attempted to selectively chose what policy proposal
you wish to advance.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Whether its the controversial resources
transfer proposal or now this new controversial recall
proposal, its the disregard of the policy development
process that makes members of this working group to
fail to understand cooperate and trust in your efforts
as cochairs.</div>
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<div dir="auto">By the way, there is nothing wrong with
the recall proposal. However, its we the working group
with the mandate to determine its fate through the
policy development process. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Which is;</div>
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<div dir="auto">1. Authors submit a draft to the rpd
list for consideration.</div>
<div dir="auto">2. Afrinic staff records it and
publishes it with an ID.</div>
<div dir="auto">3. The working group then takes it time
to discuss the draft proposal.</div>
<div dir="auto">4. In the next PPM, the draft proposal
is then added to the PPM Agenda by cochairs.</div>
<div dir="auto">5. Its authors presents the proposal to
the working group who would engage with the authors
for more discussions and clarification etc.</div>
<div dir="auto">6.Afrinic staff would then also present
their staff impact assessment and analysis.</div>
<div dir="auto">7. The cochairs would then based on all
the above process determine if the draft proposal was
attained rough consensus or not.</div>
<div dir="auto">8. If there is rough consensus then
cochair would give the WG more time during last call
for final discussions which may include editorial
changes etc.</div>
<div dir="auto">9. Otherwise the draft proposal would
have to go back to the WG list for futher discussion.</div>
<div dir="auto">10. The determination of whether the
proposal needs a waiver of the working group cochair
to invoke section 3.6 due to an emergency would come
at this stage.</div>
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<div dir="auto">So you can clearly see that the policy
development process has its timelines and its never
rushed because AFRINIC above all, is affected by each
and every action that is taken through the community
bottom up process.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Therefore, when cochairs attempt to
invoke section 3.6 while disregarding the above laid
out process from 1 - 9 and rush to attempt to vary the
process, is what makes the working group loose trust
and fail to cooperate as you have seen with all the
backlash from various members of this working group. </div>
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<div dir="auto">You can indeed claim that there was a
call by someone in the working group, requesting you
to invoke section 3.6. Its indeed within that person
right to request whatever they want. But its within
your wisdom as cochair to know better and know the
process and inform the said member that what they are
requesting is impossible since the CPM is clear on how
each new Draft Policy Proposal is treated as per the
PDP.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I shall therefore reiterate that you
give respect to the PDP process for once and fwiw
there is no emergency here but what seems like serious
confusion and/or lack of understanding in the part of
the cochairs and the person who called for the process
to be disregarded by cochairs. </div>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Whatever
we do, always think AFRINIC at the back of your
mind. We shall not compromise AFRINIC.</span></div>
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<div dir="auto">Noah</div>
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