<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="4" class="">Dear Community; Dear All,</font><div class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="text-indent: -18pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large; text-indent: -18pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">The
proposal reached consensus following the necessary procedure, with the full
participation of the Working Group and contributions from the RDP. The
“protest” and “controversy” are just normal disagreements which is part of the
RDP. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large; text-indent: -18pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">After
the consensus was reached during the PPM, the next stage of the CPM is the Last
Call, and the editorial changes are allowed during the two weeks period of the
last call. Hence, these changes that were made to the proposal are legal in
accordance with the CPM. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large; text-indent: -18pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Following
the line of implementation, a proposal can only go back to discussion if the
draft proposal did not reach consensus and hence, didn’t move to the last call
stage. Also, it clearly reached a consensus and saying it never did means
disregarding the decisions made during the PPM. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large; text-indent: -18pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">First,
every decision made by the co-chairs is made on behalf of the PDP and hence,
the consensus decision was made. Though appealed twice, but on invalid reasons
and thus, the appeals were rejected. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large; text-indent: -18pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">The
Last call period is meant to last for two weeks but due to the views of some
that were against the proposal and requested for more time to deliberate on the
proposal and such was approved. With the last call extended, editorial changes
are also allowed to take place since we are still in the period of last call. </span><span style="text-indent: -18pt;" class=""><font size="4" class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class="">The
major issue which led to non-reciprocity with the other RIRs, has been resolved
and submitted to the RIR, the AFRINIC is currently waiting for the response of
other RIRs especially ARIN. Also, the Resource Transfer policy is a needed and
necessary policy specifically with the exhaus</font><font face="Times New Roman" class="">tion of IPv4. Instead, l</font></font></span><font size="4" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">et’s
work together for the technological development and enhancement of business and
the internet in the AFRINIC and African region.</span> </font></div><div class=""><font size="4" face="Times New Roman" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font size="4" face="Times New Roman" class="">Best regards,</font></div><div class=""><font size="4" face="Times New Roman" class="">Ibeanusi Elvis .C.</font></div><div class=""><font size="4" face="Times New Roman" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 5, 2020, at 3:33, Wijdane Goubi <<a href="mailto:goubi.wijdane@gmail.com" class="">goubi.wijdane@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;line-height:115%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Dear community,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">> This proposal has been very controversial
and had a reached 'consensus' according to the Co-Chais understanding despite
the many protests from many people from this group.</span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red" class="">This proposal has reached consensus because, again, it was deserved. The
proposal took enough time to get discussed and it had solved all the concerns
that were raised by the community.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class="">
<i class="">> After the 'consensus' was declared in the PPM the proposal suffered
significant changes in the text, some of them as put conditional by the
Co-Chairs for the consensus, something really odd. To mention one of the
changes the one that changes legacy resources status from one thing to the
contrary of that.<br class="">
- These changes made after the PPM were never given enough time for the WG to
discuss it properly. One of the points that changed about the Legacy Status had
NEVER been discussed in the several months of discussion by the WG.</i></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red" class=""></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red" class="">There was enough time, several months as you said to discuss what raises
your concerns ,and yet nothing remains unsolved, to the point that would make
the proposal problematic.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class="">
<i class="">> During the Last-Call there were countless requests for this proposal to
be put back into discussion again as clearly it never reached consensus</i></span></p><div style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red" class="">Why would the proposal be put back into discussion after it has reached
consensus? That’s not how the pdp works. The authors were even understanding
enough to keep listening to the community’s remarks after the consensus was
reached, and work by them. We are in no position to keep wasting time on a much
needed policy.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class="">
><i class=""> After the Last-call the Co-Chais decision about this 'consensus' was
appealed, twice.</i></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red" class="">It was appealed for non-valid reasons that you can go back to check in the
relevant thread.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class="">
> <i class="">Co-Chairs made something unprecedented after confirming the consensus
brought the proposal back to Last-call.<br class="">
- During the first and second Last-call periods the proposal received at least
3 new versions, which some insist to call "editorial review" but
change several and significant parts showing the proposal was not ready to
progress and is been rush at any cost to pass.</i></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red" class="">If there is any reason for rushing the proposal to pass, it would only be
to benefit the community which is in this case implementing this proposal. As
for the changes no statement in the CPM forbids making editorial ones. The
policy is still the same one, and editorial modifications were needed to solve
a few misunderstandings and reciprocity issues.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class="">
> <i class="">During the same period staff confirmed some of the RIRs, ARIN in
specially did NOT have reciprocity to the text that supposedly reached
consensus.</i></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class="">
- Still with the situation unknown the authors keep presenting new text
revisions for the proposal confirming once more that the proposal was never
ready to have any consensus declared and needed further discussion despite how
much important it can be for the region.</span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red" class="">I do not see how taking into consideration the community’s concerns and
working on them can be looked at as rushing or forcing the proposal and
considered as “the proposal is not ready to have any consensus”.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class="">
> <i class="">These changes are called "editorial changes" but in fact are
just newer versions which require time for the WG to discuss properly.</i></span><i class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red" class=""></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Facing all this how can a proposal have any consensus
declared with all this mess ?</span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red" class="">There is no mess besides the one that is created by not taking enough time
to read the new drafts and realize that they do not contain any significant
changes but rather editorial ones. And that was and is still not forbidden.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Cheers, </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">wijdane</span></p><div style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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