<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Hello Madhvi, everyone,</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Thank you for getting back to us about the compatibility/reciprocity of the resource transfer proposals.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">What I have noticed is that there doesn’t seem to be a problem with the Resource Transfer Policy if a simple modification is done with the following sentence:</div><div style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px" dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"The source must be the current rights holder of the IPv4 address resources registered with any RIR and shall be in compliance with the policies of the receiving RIR."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Once done, the policy will be compatible with the RIRs and then we can proceed and not waste any more time to implement it.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Thanks, </div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Gaby</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 5:31 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD, <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Madhvi, all,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">My understanding is that the ARIN comment on this proposal (AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT04 – To be clear, I’m only talking about this one from now on), is only a comment. I don’t really understand it, and I’ve the feeling that they missed reading the section title:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#c45911">5.7.2 Conditions </span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#c45911">on the source</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#c45911"> of the transfer</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#c45911"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">This clearly states that that section is for the source of the transfer, and ARIN is saying “5.7.2.2 language does not always explicitly state that the source entity requirements apply solely to source entities”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">So, in my opinion their comment is incorrect. Can you clarify with them?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">If it is me missing something, can you ask them to explain with other wording. Non-native English speakers as myself, can be missing something maybe?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I also understand that they said “this proposal is compatible with or without that clarification”, however, I prefer to clarify it if really needed.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">In my next version I will remove the ASN, and I will send a separate proposal for ASN, so to avoid mixing things. I think it may be easeir to reach consensus “spliting” the problem in two proposals. Anyway, the input from APNIC, which was anyway a clarification – I asked already about this, but never got the response – will be good to make sure to have a good new AS transfers proposal.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Regarding LACNIC input, we know that they don’t have ASN transfers at the moment, but it is clear that it doesn’t make the proposal incompatible. Regarding the other comment, I understand that it is just a comment, not stating any incompatibility. Can you please confirm?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Tks!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Jordi<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">@jordipalet<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 27/10/20 6:22, "Madhvi Gokool" <<a href="mailto:madhvi@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madhvi@afrinic.net</a>> escribió:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Dear PDWG</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Please find the other RIRs' response regarding the compatibility/reciprocity of the following proposals in the document attached. <u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d2#proposal" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155cc;text-decoration:none">Resource Transfer Policy(draft 2)</span></a> - <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT02</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d2#proposal" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155cc;text-decoration:none">Resource Transfer Policy(draft 3)</span></a> - <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT03</span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-gen-002-d2" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155cc;text-decoration:none">AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy - </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;background:white;text-decoration:none">AFPUB-2019-GEN-002-DRAFT02</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-ipv4-002-d4" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155cc;text-decoration:none">IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope) - </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none">AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT04</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">If you are commenting on a specific proposal , please ensure that you mention the policy name or ID in the subject line .<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Kind Regards<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Madhvi<u></u><u></u></p><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">-- <u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">Madhvi Gokool<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">Senior IP Resources Specialist<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">AFRINIC Ltd.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">t: +230 403 5100 | f: +230 466 6758 | <u></u><u></u></pre><pre style="margin-left:35.4pt">w: <a href="http://www.afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.afrinic.net</a><u></u><u></u></pre><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On 23/09/2020 9:51 AM, Madhvi Gokool wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"> Dear PDWG<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">During the Policy discussions in the AFRINIC-32 PPM on 17 Sep 2020, there was a debate regarding the reciprocity of one inter-RIR transfer policy proposal with ARIN. The Policy Liaison had responded that since there are 3 policy proposals under discussion and that two of them had undergone revision in 2020 , AFRINIC shall contact ARIN to get their authoritative response in regard to the reciprocity of all the <b>3 proposals</b>.<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Since the LACNIC, RIPE and APNIC RIRs all have inter-RIR transfer policies, and we, AFRINIC do not have their assessment of the reciprocity of the 3 policy proposals under discussion on record, AFRINIC has therefore reached out to all 4 RIRs to get their inputs regarding the reciprocity of the<b> three </b>policy proposals that were discussed in the AFRINIC PPM last week.<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-left:35.4pt">We shall update you once we have received the updates from the 4 RIRs. 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