<div dir="auto">Dear all,<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">It seems to me that a mistake has been made when requesting the compatibility verification. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Dear Madhvi, the two links you sent to the two different versions of the Resource Transfer Policy proposals are completely identical and both lead to the older version (DRAFT-02). Also in the report it states that the two proposals are identical, but in fact - they aren't. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This was a problematic sentence in the DRAFT-O2 :“The source must be the current rights holder of the IPv4 address resources registered with any RIR and shall be in compliance with the policies of the receiving RIR.”</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto">In the DRAFT-03 this sentence has been changed and goes as follows: </div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><b>"</b>The source must be the current and rightful holder of the IPv4 address resources registered with any RIR , and shall not be involved in any disputes as to those resources' status."</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Therefore, I would kindly ask you to send a new correct compatibility request for the latest version of the proposal. Until this is done, there is no point in further discussion. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Best, </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Ekaterina </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 28 Oct 2020, 10:22 Frank Habicht <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Gaby,<br>
<br>
at what position would you like to insert the new text?<br>
<br>
would you say it changes the policy proposal?<br>
<br>
would you like this work group to have a chance to discuss your proposal?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Frank<br>
<br>
<br>
On 28/10/2020 12:03, Gaby Giner wrote:<br>
> Hello Madhvi, everyone<br>
> <br>
> Thank you for getting back to us about the compatibility/reciprocity of<br>
> the resource transfer proposals.<br>
> <br>
> What I have noticed is that there doesn’t seem to be a problem with the<br>
> Resource Transfer Policy if a simple modification is done with the<br>
> following sentence:<br>
> <br>
> "The source must be the current rights holder of the IPv4 address<br>
> resources registered with any RIR and shall be in compliance with the<br>
> policies of the receiving RIR."<br>
> <br>
> Once done, the policy will be compatible with the RIRs and then we can<br>
> proceed and not waste any more time to implement it.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks, Gaby<br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 1:17 PM Madhvi Gokool, <<a href="mailto:madhvi@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madhvi@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:madhvi@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">madhvi@afrinic.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Dear PDWG<br>
> <br>
> Please find the other RIRs' response regarding the<br>
> compatibility/reciprocity of the following proposals in the document<br>
> attached. <br>
> <br>
> Resource Transfer Policy(draft 2)<br>
> <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d2#proposal" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d2#proposal</a>> -<br>
> AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT02<br>
> <br>
> Resource Transfer Policy(draft 3)<br>
> <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d2#proposal" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d2#proposal</a>> -<br>
> AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT03<br>
> <br>
> AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy -<br>
> AFPUB-2019-GEN-002-DRAFT02<br>
> <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-gen-002-d2" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-gen-002-d2</a>><br>
> <br>
> IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope) -<br>
> AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT04<br>
> <<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-ipv4-002-d4" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-ipv4-002-d4</a>><br>
> <br>
> If you are commenting on a specific proposal , please ensure that<br>
> you mention the policy name or ID in the subject line .<br>
> <br>
> Kind Regards<br>
> <br>
> Madhvi<br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Madhvi Gokool<br>
> Senior IP Resources Specialist<br>
> AFRINIC Ltd.<br>
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> <br>
> On 23/09/2020 9:51 AM, Madhvi Gokool wrote:<br>
>> Dear PDWG<br>
>><br>
>> During the Policy discussions in the AFRINIC-32 PPM on 17 Sep<br>
>> 2020, there was a debate regarding the reciprocity of one<br>
>> inter-RIR transfer policy proposal with ARIN. The Policy Liaison<br>
>> had responded that since there are 3 policy proposals under<br>
>> discussion and that two of them had undergone revision in 2020 ,<br>
>> AFRINIC shall contact ARIN to get their authoritative response in<br>
>> regard to the reciprocity of all the *3 proposals*.<br>
>><br>
>> Since the LACNIC, RIPE and APNIC RIRs all have inter-RIR transfer<br>
>> policies, and we, AFRINIC do not have their assessment of the<br>
>> reciprocity of the 3 policy proposals under discussion on record, <br>
>> AFRINIC has therefore reached out to all 4 RIRs to get their<br>
>> inputs regarding the reciprocity of the*three *policy proposals<br>
>> that were discussed in the AFRINIC PPM last week.<br>
>><br>
>> We shall update you once we have received the updates from the 4<br>
>> RIRs. "<br>
>><br>
>> Kind Regards<br>
>><br>
>> Madhvi<br>
>><br>
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