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    <p>Hi Abdul,</p>
    On 2020/10/27 07:45, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear Noah,
        <div>A Section of 3.4.1 of the CPM reads ...<span
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            Working Group Chair(s) may request AFRINIC to provide an
            analysis (technical, financial, legal or other), of the
            impact of the draft policy proposal..." </span></div>
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              color="#000000">We are in the process of asking AFRINIC to
              provide us with an analysis/advice of how to handle this
              proposal since a competing proposal is already in the last
              call. <br>
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    <p>I believe we've adequately established that there isn't consensus
      on the competing proposal in last call, so may I kindly request
      that you send that proposal back to discussion, and then that
      sorts out this discussion too in that there is no possible
      conflict in having multiple draft proposals in discussion?</p>
    <p>Kind Regards,<br>
      Jaco<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 1:25
          PM Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank"
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              Neue"">Hi Co-chairs,</p>
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              Neue"">The PDP does not allow Co-chairs to approve<span> draft </span>proposals
              submitted to the WG.</p>
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              Neue"">The draft proposal has been submitted and is
              under discussion as per section 3.4 of the CPM and must be
              published<span> </span>by AFRINIC staff.</p>
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              Neue"">Can you please tell the WG what you want to
              discuss with the authors during this call which we did try
              to discuss openly after you rejected our motivated
              submission for version 3.0 with the reasons being that the
              proposal had expired.<span> </span></p>
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                          <div><b>./noah</b></div>
                          <div>neo - network engineering and operations<b><br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at
              7:31 AM ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <<a
                href="mailto:oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng" target="_blank"
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              <div dir="auto">Dear  Noah,
                <div dir="auto">It is not yet published because we are
                  still looking into it and we are planning a meeting
                  with the Authors sometime soon. </div>
                <div dir="auto">Thanks and Regards</div>
                <div dir="auto">Co-Chair </div>
                <div dir="auto">PDWG</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 25 Oct 2020,
                  19:20 Noah via pdwg, <<a
                    href="mailto:pdwg@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
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                    <div>Any reason this proposal has not been posted
                      online on the AFRINIC website?</div>
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                                    <div><b>./noah</b></div>
                                    <div>neo - network engineering and
                                      operations<b><br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 17,
                      2020 at 4:03 PM Noah <<a
                        href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" rel="noreferrer"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">noah@neo.co.tz</a>>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Dear Working Group/Co-Chairs,<br>
                          <br>
                          A new policy proposal  named "AFRINIC
                          resources transfer policy" is submitted for
                          discussions. This proposal obsoletes the
                          current  IPv4  transfer within AFRINIC 
                          service region policy, defines rules for
                          transfers of IPv4 and ASNs within the region
                          and between the AFRINIC service region and
                          other regions.<br>
                          <br>
                          The policy allows a category of resources to
                          be transferred out of the region, another
                          category of resources to be transferred inside
                          and denies the transfer of certain resources.<br>
                          <br>
                          We expect this to be a response to a
                          harmonised policy which addresses some of the
                          limitations of the intra-rir policy and
                          proposes a solution for an inter-rir transfer 
                          which minimizes the foreseen risks of
                          uncontrolled outflow of resources.</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Please find the proposals text
                          below and also attached pdf format.<br>
                          <br>
                          Happiest Weekend,</div>
                        <div dir="ltr">Noah on behalf of<br>
                          The Co-authors<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Policy Name: <b>AFRINIC Number
                            Resources Transfer Policy</b><br>
                          ID: (Assigned by AFRINIC)<br>
                          Submission <b>Date: 17 Oct 2020</b><br>
                          Version: 1.0<br>
                          Author(s): (a) Name, (b) Email address, (c)
                          Affiliation, if applicable<br>
                                Gregoire Olaotan Ehoumi, <a
                            href="mailto:gregoire@ehoumi.net"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">gregoire@ehoumi.net</a>,
                          independent<br>
                                Noah  Maina, <a
                            href="mailto:noah.maina@seacom.com"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">noah.maina@seacom.com</a>,
                          SEACOM<br>
                                Adeola A. P. Aina, <a
                            href="mailto:alain.aina@wacren.net"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">alain.aina@wacren.net</a>,
                          WACREN<br>
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                          <b>Sections of Policy Manual affected<br>
                          </b><br>
                          <b>Obsoletes</b>: IPv4 Resources transfer
                          within the AFRINIC Region (Section 5.7 of the
                          CPM)<br>
                          <br>
                          <b>1.0 Summary of the problem being addressed
                            by this proposal</b></div>
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                          </b>The AFRINIC IPv4 pool is expected to run
                          out soon. Some entities may need IPv4 space to
                          support their IPv6 deployments, especially to
                          support transition mechanisms, which AFRINIC
                          may not meet. The current Intra-RIR policy in
                          force at AFRINIC allows entities to receive
                          unused IPv4 addresses from other members
                          solely within the AFRINIC region, based on
                          justified needs. Considering the limited IPv4
                          space initially made available to AFRINIC
                          (AFRINIC manages only 7.23 /8s with a very low
                          ratio of IPv4 addresses per Internet user),
                          there will therefore be a need to allow for
                          unused IPv4 from other regions to move into
                          the AFRINIC service region °V this without
                          necessarily depleting AFRINIC's slim amount of
                          IPv4 addresses by transferring space out of
                          the region. The current Intra-RIR transfer
                          policy allows all types of IPv4
                          allocations/assignments to be transferred,
                          including IPv4 from special purpose blocks
                          (reserved blocks for IXPs and DNS root ops,
                          Last /8, etc.) The current intra-RIR transfer
                          policy does not cover ASNs while there are
                          cases where transfers of ASNs among AFRINIC
                          members is desirable.<br>
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                          <b>2.0 Summary of how this proposal addresses
                            the problem</b></div>
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                          </b>This new policy defines a set of rules to
                          allow transfer of IPv4 addresses and ASNs
                          within the AFRINIC service region; and between
                          the AFRINIC service region and other regions
                          by specifying what categories of resources are
                          eligible for transfer, the location of parties
                          (sources and recipients) and the conditions to
                          be met.<br>
                          The policy segregates resources in different
                          categories and defines which transfer rules
                          apply to each category.<br>
                          Only Legacy resources and resources
                          transferred in from other regions will be
                          transferable out of the AFRINIC service
                          region.<br>
                          The policy also makes the following
                          provisions:<br>
                          - Number resources are non-transferable unless
                          AFRINIC has expressly and in writing approved
                          a request for transfer. AFRINIC is tasked with
                          making prudent decisions on whether to approve
                          the transfer of number resources.<br>
                          - IPv4 addresses and ASNs can be transferred
                          only in accordance with this policy. <br>
                          - AFRINIC does not recognize transfers outside
                          of approved transfer policies and requires
                          organizations holding such resources to return
                          them to the appropriate registries.<br>
                          The goal of this transfer policy is to help
                          distribute resources from those who no longer
                          need them to organizations that need the
                          resources, but cannot obtain them from the
                          AFRINIC free pools.<br>
                          AFRINIC recognizes the following types of
                          transfers:<br>
                          - merger, acquisition, takeover or
                          consolidation,<br>
                          - between AFRINIC members,<br>
                          - between an AFRINIC member and an
                          organization in another region,<br>
                          - between a Legacy resource holder and an
                          AFRINIC member,<br>
                          - between a Legacy resource holder and an
                          organization in another region.<br>
                          AFRINIC will process and record Inter-RIR
                          resource transfers only when the counterpart
                          RIR has an Inter-RIR transfer policy that
                          permits the transfer of IPv4 address space and
                          ASNs between its own region and AFRINIC.
                          Currently, the other regions are APNIC, ARIN,
                          LACNIC, RIPE NCC.<br>
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                          <b>3.0 Proposal</b></div>
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                          </b>Insert the following text into the CPM
                          (numbering to be changed by staff as
                          appropriate):<br>
                          3.1 Definitions<br>
                          3.1.1 "Resource" refers to IPv4 Address space
                          or Autonomous System Numbers.<br>
                          "AFRINIC pool" means the AFRINIC managed pool
                          of IPv4 and ASNs, obtained from IANA
                          (allocated and recovered) or through the ERX
                          (Early registration transfers).<br>
                          3.1.2 "Special-Purpose pool" means the pool of
                          resources currently reserved for Critical
                          Internet Infrastructures (section 5.6.4 of
                          CPM) and resources distributed during the
                          Exhaustion phases of the soft landing policy
                          (section 5.4 of CPM).<br>
                          3.1.3 "Legacy resources" refer to resources
                          allocated prior to the RIR system and tagged
                          as Legacy by AFRINIC.<br>
                          3.1.4 "Others" means resources transferred
                          from other regions through Inter-RIR
                          transfers.<br>
                          3.1.5 "Inter-RIR transfer" means the transfer
                          of resources from a resource holder in the
                          AFRINIC service region to an organization in
                          another region or vice-versa.<br>
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                          <b>3.2 Marking of the resources</b></div>
                        <div dir="ltr">AFRINIC pool == Regional<br>
                          Special-Purpose pool == Reserved<br>
                          Legacy == Legacy<br>
                          Others == Global<br>
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                          <b>3.3 Rules and procedures for selecting
                            resources eligible for transfers</b></div>
                        <div dir="ltr">3.3.1 If source and recipient are
                          AFRINIC members, then allow "Regional",
                          "Global" or "Legacy" for transfer and mark
                          transferred "Legacy" as "Global".<br>
                          3.3.2 If source is Legacy holder and recipient
                          is AFRINIC member, then allow "Legacy" for
                          transfer and mark transferred resources as
                          "Global".<br>
                          3.3.3 If source is Legacy holder and recipient
                          is in another region, then allow "Legacy" for
                          transfer.<br>
                          3.3.4 If source is AFRINIC member and
                          recipient is in another region, then allow
                          "Global" for transfer.<br>
                          3.3.5 If source is from another region and
                          recipient is AFRINIC member, then allow "Any",
                          and then mark the transferred resources as
                          "Global".<br>
                          3.3.6 Irrespective of the source and
                          recipient, if the resource to be transferred
                          is "Reserved" then deny transfer. This
                          restriction excludes mergers, acquisitions and
                          takeover transfers.<br>
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                          <b>3.4 Conditions on resources to be
                            transferred</b></div>
                        <div dir="ltr">- The size of the IPv4 address
                          prefix should be a minimum of /24.<br>
                          - The resource must qualify for the type of
                          transfer requested.<br>
                          - The resource will be covered by AFRINIC
                          policies after transfer into the region.<br>
                           <br>
                          <b>3.5 Conditions on the source<br>
                          </b>- Must be the right holder of the
                          resources to be transferred with no disputes.<br>
                          - If the source is from other regions,
                          conditions on the source are defined in the
                          counterpart RIRs transfer policy.<br>
                           <br>
                          <b>3.6 Conditions on the recipient</b></div>
                        <div dir="ltr">- Will be subject to current
                          AFRINIC policies.<br>
                          -  Must sign RSA.<br>
                          - Recipient that does not have prior resources
                          must:<br>
                          ++ demonstrate a detailed plan for the use of
                          the transferred resources<br>
                          (in the case of ASN, the recipient must meet
                          the criteria for assignment of ASN).<br>
                          - Recipient with prior resources must:<br>
                          ++ demonstrate a detailed plan for the use of
                          the transferred resources<br>
                          (in the case of ASN, the recipient must meet
                          the criteria for assignment of ASN).<br>
                          ++ Show past usage rate.<br>
                          ++ Provide evidence of compliance with AFRINIC
                          policies with respect to past
                          allocations/assignments.<br>
                          - If the recipient is in another region, the
                          conditions on the recipient are defined in the
                          counterparts RIR transfer policy.<br>
                          <br>
                          <b> 4. References</b></div>
                        <div dir="ltr"><b><br>
                          </b><a
                            href="https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO-Statistics-2019Q2.pdf"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO-Statistics-2019Q2.pdf</a><br>
                          <a href="https://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/</a><br>
                          <a
                            href="https://bgp.potaroo.net/iso3166/v4cc.html"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://bgp.potaroo.net/iso3166/v4cc.html</a><br>
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                            href="https://resources.potaroo.net/iso3166/ascc.html"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://resources.potaroo.net/iso3166/ascc.html</a><br>
                          <a
                            href="ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/stats/afrinic/transfers/"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/stats/afrinic/transfers/</a><br>
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