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<p>Dear Jordi,</p>
<p>Are we out rightly saying people with minimum experience on some
topics must keep quiet when issues on the topic(s) is being
discussed. Is this not an attempt at gagging and totally shutting
out potential learners and members of the community?</p>
<p>I would rather have thought we will encourage even the
inexperience ones to talk to a topic, where they make mistakes we
can gently correct and guide so that they can be experience. I
think this will be referred to as mentoring. Possibly this is not
a culture of this community, that is nurturing novice to be
experts.</p>
<p>On the flip side if the inexperience ones are to keep quiet and
possibly stay away, then we will be creating a 'cult' community
and I believe that is not what PWDG is all about. In essence
tolerance is important here.</p>
<p>Simply</p>
<p>Daniel<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/10/2020 10:27 am, JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="ES-TRAD">Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="ES-TRAD"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">This reminded to me something …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Looking at the message <a
href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/011592.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/011592.html</a>,
and the attached document, presumable authored by Lamiaa and
Wijdane, the metadata shows that it was actually written by
Lucilla.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Not saying anything specific to this (I will
comment on this proposal at due time) just “food for
thought”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">So yes, I've been always against that, but I’m
starting to believe that we may need to rethink if something
like the “ICANN” WG statement of interest is needed in our
PDP or at least an alternative way to avoid people
presumably using different emails or debating/contributing
with at least a minimum experience in some topics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 19/10/20
8:23, "Mike Silber" <<a
href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>>
escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Lucilla or
whatever your actual name is.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Thank you for
confirming for the mailing list that you and Ekatarina form
part of the same echo chamber.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Now you have
been exposed, you attempt to create distance from that
person/identity, but it is not working.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">As I wrote
before, your opinion on the appeal is frankly irrelevant.
The appeal process is to an appeal committee. There is no
mechanism in the PDP to oppose an appeal.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">The appeal
process is (supposed to be) objective and (hopefully) not
capable of manipulation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">This mailing
list has been populated by sock puppets and fictional
identities for years. People from various view points and
perspectives have been using these identities to amplify
their views. So this behavior is not new!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I am not sure
if it has come time to require moderation of all posts and
positive confirmation of identity before that moderation is
lifted?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Mon, 19
Oct 2020 at 07:49, lucilla fornaro <<a
href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I read
your email!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">You
answered back to Ekaterina, asking HER an
explanation for what SHE wrote! Why should I talk
on her behalf? How do I know what she meant by
using those words?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Is
this a constructive discussion? I don't think so.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Lucilla <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Il
giorno lun 19 ott 2020 alle ore 14:35 Frank Habicht
<<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>>
ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hi,<br>
<br>
it seems you didn't read my email. the one you
replied to.<br>
any comments about what I wrote?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Frank<br>
<br>
On 19/10/2020 08:29, lucilla fornaro wrote:<br>
> Dear Frank,<br>
> <br>
> you were the last one who posted and by "reply
to all" you were inserted<br>
> as well. It was not intentional, but I
don't think it creates<br>
> any confusion either. The main topic here is
the Appeal, and what I<br>
> wrote is related to that! <br>
> <br>
> Lucilla <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Il giorno lun 19 ott 2020 alle ore 14:15 Frank
Habicht<br>
> <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>>>
ha scritto:<br>
> <br>
> Hi all,<br>
> <br>
> For the record: below email from Lucilla is
a *reply* to my email but<br>
> not a response to any content of my email.<br>
> <br>
> Others might get confused.<br>
> I'm sure that was not intended. But for the
future it would help to<br>
> reply to the emails that one is referring
to (or start a new thread).<br>
> Like maybe the appeal email in this
case....<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Frank<br>
> <br>
> On 19/10/2020 05:15, lucilla fornaro wrote:<br>
> > Dear Community,<br>
> ><br>
> > I am against this appeal for the
following reasons:<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.1* Co-chairs followed the procedure
fulfilling their administrative<br>
> > function within the scope of the CPM.
The co-chairs carried out their<br>
> > administrative functions that include
advancing suggestions.<br>
> ><br>
> > Consequently, the authors have the
choice to adopt the suggestions and<br>
> > make a change.<br>
> ><br>
> > The PDP allows and does not forbid the
co-chairs from making<br>
> suggestions<br>
> > concerning major objections
facilitating the overall discussion<br>
> related<br>
> > to the policy that can potentially
reach consensus.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.2 *“Rough consensus is achieved
when all issues are addressed, but<br>
> > not necessarily accommodated”. That is
exactly what happened: the<br>
> policy<br>
> > reached a rough consensus during the
PPM (openly determined<br>
> > by Co-chairs) and went to the last
call for some editorial changes.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.3* PDP needs to be considered as a
guideline of practices and not<br>
> > strict rules. It adopts COMMONLY
accepted practices and provides the<br>
> > FLEXIBILITY to adapt to a variety of
circumstances that can occur<br>
> during<br>
> > the discussion of policies.<br>
> ><br>
> > Co-chairs did not make the rough
consensus of the policy conditional,<br>
> > they have just advanced some
suggestions, that as we said fulfilling<br>
> > their administrative function within
the scope of Afrinic.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.4* The PDP is managed and
administered by the CPM that does not<br>
> > forbid making changes.<br>
> ><br>
> > If we want to follow an objective
reading and interpretation of<br>
> PDP, we<br>
> > will see that nowhere in the text it
is stated that the policy is not<br>
> > allowed to underdo editorial changes
after the meeting. This means<br>
> that<br>
> > no violation occurred.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.5* No major changes have been
addressed in the last 2 drafts,<br>
> in fact<br>
> > there was no need for Impact Analysis
from Afrinic. It is clear<br>
> that the<br>
> > community members have had exhaustive
time to discuss the policy and<br>
> > therefore there is no violation of
CPM.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.6* Co-Chairs job is to address
major objections and suggest changes<br>
> > (it is part of their administrative
work). The co-chairs have<br>
> never been<br>
> > intrusive or coercive in their
suggestions. They have never tried to<br>
> > persuade the authors to make changes
by using threats.<br>
> ><br>
> > *2.1* The Working Group Chairs MAY
request AFRINIC to provide an<br>
> > analysis of the changes made and of
how these changes impact the<br>
> policy<br>
> > proposal. This proves that no major
changes have been made for DRAFT03<br>
> > and DRAFT04, therefore there is no
need for an Impact Assessment from<br>
> > AFRINIC .<br>
> ><br>
> > *2.2 *By removing the previous
paragraph, the authors did not<br>
> alter the<br>
> > overall purpose of the proposal. For
what concerns 5.7.3.1, 5.7.3.2,<br>
> > 5.7.4.1, changes concern the styles
used in the document and general<br>
> > appearance and this is to be
considered under the “editorial change”.<br>
> > Simple clarifications that do not
alter the substantive meaning of the<br>
> > proposal material.<br>
> ><br>
> > *2.3* The proposal has been
exhaustively discussed in the RPD<br>
> mailing list.<br>
> ><br>
> > RIPE indicates AFRINIC the references
and recommendations that it<br>
> needs<br>
> > to manage legacy space.<br>
> ><br>
> > The current transfer policy's purpose
does not mainly focus on solving<br>
> > this problem.<br>
> ><br>
> > This proposal was done with the
intention of gaining reciprocity with<br>
> > the principal contributor of IPv4s
which is ARIN.<br>
> ><br>
> > ARIN has responded that the Resource
Transfer Policy is not compatible<br>
> > with their inter-RIR transfer policies
because of the following<br>
> > statement therein - “The source must
be the current rights holder<br>
> of the<br>
> > IPv4 address resources registered with
any RIR and shall be in<br>
> > compliance with the policies of the
receiving RIR.”<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Lucilla <br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Il giorno lun 19 ott 2020 alle ore
01:02 Frank Habicht<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>><br>
> <mailto:<a
href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>>>>
ha scritto:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Ekaterina,<br>
> ><br>
> > see inline below.<br>
> ><br>
> > 16/10/2020 20:33, Ekaterina
Kalugina wrote:<br>
> > > Dear community,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I believe this appeal is
problematic for the following reasons.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The compliance to the PDP
and consensus determination<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.3 The policy discussion we
had was complex and nuanced and<br>
> therefore<br>
> > > it was the co-chairs duty to
reflect this nuance in their<br>
> conclusions.<br>
> > > There was no conditions
imposed.<br>
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
> > > The co-chairs simply stated
that if<br>
> >
^^^^<br>
> > > some minor objections were to
be addressed by the authors<br>
> then the<br>
> > > policy have achieved rough
consensus.<br>
> ><br>
> > I think the part after the 'if' is
a condition.<br>
> > I think you're contradicting
yourself.<br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe I have a problem with my
English knowledge. If so,<br>
> please help me<br>
> > understand.<br>
> ><br>
> > Of course after that (what I call
a contradiction), I could<br>
> not continue<br>
> > reading the email, because I can't
be sure whether you base you<br>
> > arguments on "no conditions" or on
"If ...".<br>
> ><br>
> > I really hope co-chairs and all in
this WG don't give too much<br>
> weight to<br>
> > arguments based on
self-contradicting statements. The facts<br>
> are there.<br>
> > And of course I hope that was
"professional and respectful"<br>
> enough for<br>
> > Lamiaa.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> > Frank<br>
> ><br>
> > > Nowhere in the PDP it states
how<br>
> > > exactly the chairs should
determine consensus, therefore I<br>
> believe<br>
> > that<br>
> > > in this case the chairs acted
within their prerogative.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.4 The CPM does not
explicitly state that only editorial<br>
> changes are<br>
> > > allowed. However, as you
pointed out, it is understandable<br>
> that such<br>
> > > changes may be necessary. The
fact that editorial changes<br>
> are the only<br>
> > > changes that have been made
up to this point does not mean<br>
> that these<br>
> > > are the only changes allowed.
The PDP is determined by the<br>
> CPM and not<br>
> > > by the past practices, and
the CPM does not forbid any<br>
> changes during<br>
> > > the last call, be it
editorial or not.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.5 The other proposals did
not achieve consensus during the<br>
> > meeting as<br>
> > > there were still many
unresolved major objections. The Resource<br>
> > Transfer<br>
> > > Policy only had minor issues
that could be easily addressed<br>
> by the<br>
> > > authors. Therefore, there is
no unfairness in regard to this<br>
> issue.<br>
> > > And again, nowhere in the CPM
it states that non-editorial<br>
> changes are<br>
> > > not allowed to take place
during the last call.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.6 These were not
suggestions, but conclusions drawn by the<br>
> > chairs from<br>
> > > the discussion. They did
summarize the discussion in an<br>
> objective and<br>
> > > non-intrusive manner. But you
need to keep in mind that a<br>
> nuanced<br>
> > > discussion requires a nuanced
summary.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.7. Fairness is the basic
principle that guides the PDP and<br>
> that<br>
> > > includes actions of the
co-chairs.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Specific issues regarding
the proposal being appealed<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2.1 As the current situation
holds – the staff assessment is not<br>
> > > mandatory and therefore this
is not a legitimate ground for the<br>
> > appeal.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2.2 Again, nowhere in the CPM
it states that significant changes<br>
> > cannot<br>
> > > be done during the last call.
In this case particularly, all the<br>
> > changes<br>
> > > in the DRAFT-04 have been
made to ensure that the Resource<br>
> Transfer<br>
> > > Policy is fully compatible
with ARIN. There is no need for<br>
> another<br>
> > > discussion, as this change
directly addresses all the issues<br>
> raised in<br>
> > > all the discussions that
preceded the publication of this draft.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2.3 The issue of legacy
resources is far too complex to be<br>
> > realistically<br>
> > > considered within the scope
of the proposed policy. The goal<br>
> of this<br>
> > > policy is to make sure
AFRINIC can receive resources from other<br>
> > RIRs and<br>
> > > the loss of legacy status is
necessary to ensure<br>
> reciprocity. However,<br>
> > > if there is some perceived
unfairness when it comes to the<br>
> transfer of<br>
> > > legacy resources, a separate
policy ought to be introduced<br>
> > following the<br>
> > > Resource Transfer policy.
There will be the right time and place<br>
> > to have<br>
> > > a discussion on legacy with
all its nuances. As of now, the main<br>
> > > priority for the region is to
have a resource transfer<br>
> policy that is<br>
> > > reciprocal with other RIRs.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > As for your note that this
proposal is not actually<br>
> reciprocal with<br>
> > > other RIRs – it is factually
incorrect. The staff confirmed<br>
> that the<br>
> > > DRAFT-02 and DRAFT-03 are not
compatible with ARIN, and this is<br>
> > > precisely the reason DRAFT-04
was introduced. And before you say<br>
> > that it<br>
> > > was too hasty and it needed
more discussion – it really doesn’t.<br>
> > > DRAFT-04 just removed the
section on the sending RIR being bound<br>
> > by the<br>
> > > policies of the receiving RIR
that made the policy<br>
> incompatible with<br>
> > > ARIN as per staff assessment.
Thus, with all the edits<br>
> considered the<br>
> > > DRAFT-04 of the Resource
Transfer Policy should be<br>
> functional and<br>
> > fully<br>
> > > compatible with other RIRs.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Considering the above, I
believe this appeal lacks the necessary<br>
> > grounds<br>
> > > to call for the
non-declaration of concensus. <br>
> > ><br>
> > > Best, <br>
> > ><br>
> > > Ekaterina Kalugina <br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, 19:17
Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz"
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> > > wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020,
15:59 Gregoire EHOUMI via RPD,<br>
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> > ><br>
> > > Hello,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > As per appeal
process, see below a copy of my email<br>
> to appeal<br>
> > > committee. <br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hi Greg<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Pleased to fully support
this appeal against the cochairs<br>
> > > declaration of rough
consensus and consensus on a<br>
> proposal that is<br>
> > > had several unresolved
valid objections. <br>
> > ><br>
> > > The cochairs erred bigly
and its absurd to see the PDP<br>
> process<br>
> > > ignored at every step by
those who must ensure that they<br>
> follow it<br>
> > > while acting fairly
without being subjective like we<br>
> have seen<br>
> > recently.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Cheers<br>
> > > Noah<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >
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