I keep hearing people quoting the CPM or PDP process here but I can bet you that if a legal counsel is to moderate our discussions a lot of us violate the process intentionally or unintentionally so some times adopting best practices while accommodating laid down principles is a good way to go. <div>I also saw the mail notifying the cochairs of the appeal as if threatening them that an appeal is coming. </div><div>While I believe in following the process I also believe in the principle of doing it in a civil manner and with the ideology of do unto others what you want others to do to you. I have seen calls here for moderation and I believe if these moderation is adopted a lot of us carrying out certain rhetoric will be banned due to lack of respect for constituted authority. In the end we should remeber that we are all here for one goal and not all these personal vendetta of name calling. Let it rest.<br><br>On Monday, October 19, 2020, Daniel Yakmut via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>My take here is that I am questioning the spirit of the appeal. But of course the appellant has the right to appeal.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I understand the process clearly, I was questioning why would someone be telling the Co-chairs to note the forwarding of an appeal, when it is not their perogative.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would not mind going on an unwinding road if it leads to a result, but taking a trip on such road knowing fully well it will result to null, it shouldn't be called a PDP. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Simply</div><div dir="auto">Daniel<br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 19, 2020 8:58 AM, "Noah" <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 19 Oct 2020, 10:13 Daniel Yakmut via RPD, <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Is it the Co-Chairs that should confirm receipt of the appeal? I
thought it is their action that is being appealed. If we claim we
know the process the appeal process is handled by the appeal
committee. So the confirmation should be directed to them, not the
Co-Chairs.</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto">On the other hand, you dont seem to understand the process. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1st step.</div><div dir="auto">The appeal against the action of the cochair on this proposal was sent to the appeal committee first and the supporters of the appeal as indicated in the document wrote to the committee to confirm their support.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2nd step.</div><div dir="auto">The appellant then did the needful as per the appeal process by informing the working group that there is an appeal and members of the working group who support the appeal have continued to state as such.</div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>That not withstanding, this appeal was done in bad faith </p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto">Since when is following the PDP process which gives the right to the working group to appeal bad faith.</div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p>and will
take us very long and torturous path.</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto">Called the policy development process.</div><div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p> The most sensible action,
which I agreed with, was the suggestion by Jordi for an extension
of the last call.</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto">Shortcuts dont form part of the policy development even countries regulations and laws take process as per the law.</div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>The appeal should be ignored in favour of a more realistic
suggestion by Jordi. I consider it as the only suggestion deviod
of any sentiment.</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto">Yet the process allows appeal. Are you against the PDP.</div><font color="#888888"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah</div></font><div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p>Simply,</p>
<p>Daniel<br>
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<div>On 16/10/2020 7:48 pm, Jaco Kroon
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I also support this appeal.</p>
<p>Could the PDWG chairs please confirm receipt of appeal and
confirm that all process requirements have been met?</p>
<p>Kind Regards,<br>
Jaco<br>
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<span style="text-align:-webkit-auto">Hello,</span><br>
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<div>As per appeal process, see below a
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<div>Thank you and best regards,</div>
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against the declaration of consensus on proposal
Resource Transfer Policy</b><br>
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<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">October 15, 2020 at
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<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>,
Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>>, Darwin
Costa <<a href="mailto:dc@darwincosta.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dc@darwincosta.com</a>>,
Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Dear Appeal Committee,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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sans-serif">I attach in PDF the document
referenced in the subject of this email.</font></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Please confirm receipt and
that no information is missing before the
applicable deadlines.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I also copy community
members who have participated in this discussion
supporting this appeal.</span></p>
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I <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-align:-webkit-auto">look forward to hearing from you. </span>
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