<div dir="auto">Daniel </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have no issues with opinions. I have issues with shadowy echo chambers comprised of uncertain identities amplifying those opinions in an attempt to manipulate the process.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am not shouting. I am not picking on one group. This is a ploy used many times before and frankly I am tired of sock puppets manipulating the process.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have purposely expressed no opinion on the policy, merely on the process.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am calling on identity verification to avoid manipulation and not stifle discussion.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please read what I have written and do not attribute to me statements or intent that is not there.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Mike</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 09:21, Daniel Yakmut <<a href="mailto:yakmutd@googlemail.com">yakmutd@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>We are becoming intolerant and dictatorial if we attempt in any
form to begin to sanction or moderate posts that are not
supportive of an opinion. I don't see any reason why we should
suggest or contemplate any moderation.</p>
<p>I don't also agree with attempts at cowing others not to express
their opinions because they differ. If we are sure that there are
ghost IDs on the mailing list then let us take necessary actions.
However, for now there are attempts at shutting and shouting down
people.</p>
<p>Correctly, appeal cannot be stopped, but it has to be justified.
And if some said they are against an appeal, i think my
interpretation will be the person is against the content of the
appeal, which of course does stop the appeal. However, whether you
are to say I am against an appeal is another matter.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Simply</p></div><div>
<p>Daniel<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div>On 19/10/2020 7:16 am, Mike Silber
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">Lucilla or whatever your actual name is.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Thank you for confirming for the mailing list that
you and Ekatarina form part of the same echo chamber.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Now you have been exposed, you attempt to create
distance from that person/identity, but it is not working.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">As I wrote before, your opinion on the appeal is
frankly irrelevant. The appeal process is to an appeal
committee. There is no mechanism in the PDP to oppose an appeal.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">The appeal process is (supposed to be) objective
and (hopefully) not capable of manipulation.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">This mailing list has been populated by sock
puppets and fictional identities for years. People from various
view points and perspectives have been using these identities to
amplify their views. So this behavior is not new!</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I am not sure if it has come time to require
moderation of all posts and positive confirmation of identity
before that moderation is lifted?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Mike</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at
07:49, lucilla fornaro <<a href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">I read your email!
<div>You answered back to Ekaterina, asking HER an
explanation for what SHE wrote! Why should I talk on
her behalf? How do I know what she meant by using
those words?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is this a constructive discussion? I don't think
so.</div>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Lucilla </div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno lun 19 ott
2020 alle ore 14:35 Frank Habicht <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>> ha
scritto:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
it seems you didn't read my email. the one you replied
to.<br>
any comments about what I wrote?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Frank<br>
<br>
On 19/10/2020 08:29, lucilla fornaro wrote:<br>
> Dear Frank,<br>
> <br>
> you were the last one who posted and by "reply to
all" you were inserted<br>
> as well. It was not intentional, but I don't think
it creates<br>
> any confusion either. The main topic here is the
Appeal, and what I<br>
> wrote is related to that! <br>
> <br>
> Lucilla <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Il giorno lun 19 ott 2020 alle ore 14:15 Frank
Habicht<br>
> <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>>>
ha scritto:<br>
> <br>
> Hi all,<br>
> <br>
> For the record: below email from Lucilla is a
*reply* to my email but<br>
> not a response to any content of my email.<br>
> <br>
> Others might get confused.<br>
> I'm sure that was not intended. But for the
future it would help to<br>
> reply to the emails that one is referring to
(or start a new thread).<br>
> Like maybe the appeal email in this case....<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Frank<br>
> <br>
> On 19/10/2020 05:15, lucilla fornaro wrote:<br>
> > Dear Community,<br>
> ><br>
> > I am against this appeal for the following
reasons:<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.1* Co-chairs followed the procedure
fulfilling their administrative<br>
> > function within the scope of the CPM. The
co-chairs carried out their<br>
> > administrative functions that include
advancing suggestions.<br>
> ><br>
> > Consequently, the authors have the choice
to adopt the suggestions and<br>
> > make a change.<br>
> ><br>
> > The PDP allows and does not forbid the
co-chairs from making<br>
> suggestions<br>
> > concerning major objections facilitating
the overall discussion<br>
> related<br>
> > to the policy that can potentially reach
consensus.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.2 *“Rough consensus is achieved when
all issues are addressed, but<br>
> > not necessarily accommodated”. That is
exactly what happened: the<br>
> policy<br>
> > reached a rough consensus during the PPM
(openly determined<br>
> > by Co-chairs) and went to the last call
for some editorial changes.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.3* PDP needs to be considered as a
guideline of practices and not<br>
> > strict rules. It adopts COMMONLY accepted
practices and provides the<br>
> > FLEXIBILITY to adapt to a variety of
circumstances that can occur<br>
> during<br>
> > the discussion of policies.<br>
> ><br>
> > Co-chairs did not make the rough consensus
of the policy conditional,<br>
> > they have just advanced some suggestions,
that as we said fulfilling<br>
> > their administrative function within the
scope of Afrinic.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.4* The PDP is managed and administered
by the CPM that does not<br>
> > forbid making changes.<br>
> ><br>
> > If we want to follow an objective reading
and interpretation of<br>
> PDP, we<br>
> > will see that nowhere in the text it is
stated that the policy is not<br>
> > allowed to underdo editorial changes after
the meeting. This means<br>
> that<br>
> > no violation occurred.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.5* No major changes have been addressed
in the last 2 drafts,<br>
> in fact<br>
> > there was no need for Impact Analysis from
Afrinic. It is clear<br>
> that the<br>
> > community members have had exhaustive time
to discuss the policy and<br>
> > therefore there is no violation of CPM.<br>
> ><br>
> > *1.6* Co-Chairs job is to address major
objections and suggest changes<br>
> > (it is part of their administrative
work). The co-chairs have<br>
> never been<br>
> > intrusive or coercive in their
suggestions. They have never tried to<br>
> > persuade the authors to make changes by
using threats.<br>
> ><br>
> > *2.1* The Working Group Chairs MAY request
AFRINIC to provide an<br>
> > analysis of the changes made and of how
these changes impact the<br>
> policy<br>
> > proposal. This proves that no major
changes have been made for DRAFT03<br>
> > and DRAFT04, therefore there is no need
for an Impact Assessment from<br>
> > AFRINIC .<br>
> ><br>
> > *2.2 *By removing the previous paragraph,
the authors did not<br>
> alter the<br>
> > overall purpose of the proposal. For what
concerns 5.7.3.1, 5.7.3.2,<br>
> > 5.7.4.1, changes concern the styles used
in the document and general<br>
> > appearance and this is to be considered
under the “editorial change”.<br>
> > Simple clarifications that do not alter
the substantive meaning of the<br>
> > proposal material.<br>
> ><br>
> > *2.3* The proposal has been exhaustively
discussed in the RPD<br>
> mailing list.<br>
> ><br>
> > RIPE indicates AFRINIC the references and
recommendations that it<br>
> needs<br>
> > to manage legacy space.<br>
> ><br>
> > The current transfer policy's purpose does
not mainly focus on solving<br>
> > this problem.<br>
> ><br>
> > This proposal was done with the intention
of gaining reciprocity with<br>
> > the principal contributor of IPv4s which
is ARIN.<br>
> ><br>
> > ARIN has responded that the Resource
Transfer Policy is not compatible<br>
> > with their inter-RIR transfer policies
because of the following<br>
> > statement therein - “The source must be
the current rights holder<br>
> of the<br>
> > IPv4 address resources registered with any
RIR and shall be in<br>
> > compliance with the policies of the
receiving RIR.”<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Lucilla <br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Il giorno lun 19 ott 2020 alle ore 01:02
Frank Habicht<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" target="_blank">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>>>>
ha scritto:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Ekaterina,<br>
> ><br>
> > see inline below.<br>
> ><br>
> > 16/10/2020 20:33, Ekaterina Kalugina
wrote:<br>
> > > Dear community,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I believe this appeal is
problematic for the following reasons.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The compliance to the PDP and
consensus determination<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.3 The policy discussion we had
was complex and nuanced and<br>
> therefore<br>
> > > it was the co-chairs duty to
reflect this nuance in their<br>
> conclusions.<br>
> > > There was no conditions imposed.<br>
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
> > > The co-chairs simply stated that
if<br>
> > ^^^^<br>
> > > some minor objections were to be
addressed by the authors<br>
> then the<br>
> > > policy have achieved rough
consensus.<br>
> ><br>
> > I think the part after the 'if' is a
condition.<br>
> > I think you're contradicting yourself.<br>
> ><br>
> > Maybe I have a problem with my English
knowledge. If so,<br>
> please help me<br>
> > understand.<br>
> ><br>
> > Of course after that (what I call a
contradiction), I could<br>
> not continue<br>
> > reading the email, because I can't be
sure whether you base you<br>
> > arguments on "no conditions" or on "If
...".<br>
> ><br>
> > I really hope co-chairs and all in
this WG don't give too much<br>
> weight to<br>
> > arguments based on self-contradicting
statements. The facts<br>
> are there.<br>
> > And of course I hope that was
"professional and respectful"<br>
> enough for<br>
> > Lamiaa.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> > Frank<br>
> ><br>
> > > Nowhere in the PDP it states how<br>
> > > exactly the chairs should
determine consensus, therefore I<br>
> believe<br>
> > that<br>
> > > in this case the chairs acted
within their prerogative.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.4 The CPM does not explicitly
state that only editorial<br>
> changes are<br>
> > > allowed. However, as you pointed
out, it is understandable<br>
> that such<br>
> > > changes may be necessary. The
fact that editorial changes<br>
> are the only<br>
> > > changes that have been made up to
this point does not mean<br>
> that these<br>
> > > are the only changes allowed. The
PDP is determined by the<br>
> CPM and not<br>
> > > by the past practices, and the
CPM does not forbid any<br>
> changes during<br>
> > > the last call, be it editorial or
not.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.5 The other proposals did not
achieve consensus during the<br>
> > meeting as<br>
> > > there were still many unresolved
major objections. The Resource<br>
> > Transfer<br>
> > > Policy only had minor issues that
could be easily addressed<br>
> by the<br>
> > > authors. Therefore, there is no
unfairness in regard to this<br>
> issue.<br>
> > > And again, nowhere in the CPM it
states that non-editorial<br>
> changes are<br>
> > > not allowed to take place during
the last call.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.6 These were not suggestions,
but conclusions drawn by the<br>
> > chairs from<br>
> > > the discussion. They did
summarize the discussion in an<br>
> objective and<br>
> > > non-intrusive manner. But you
need to keep in mind that a<br>
> nuanced<br>
> > > discussion requires a nuanced
summary.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1.7. Fairness is the basic
principle that guides the PDP and<br>
> that<br>
> > > includes actions of the
co-chairs.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Specific issues regarding the
proposal being appealed<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2.1 As the current situation
holds – the staff assessment is not<br>
> > > mandatory and therefore this is
not a legitimate ground for the<br>
> > appeal.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2.2 Again, nowhere in the CPM it
states that significant changes<br>
> > cannot<br>
> > > be done during the last call. In
this case particularly, all the<br>
> > changes<br>
> > > in the DRAFT-04 have been made to
ensure that the Resource<br>
> Transfer<br>
> > > Policy is fully compatible with
ARIN. There is no need for<br>
> another<br>
> > > discussion, as this change
directly addresses all the issues<br>
> raised in<br>
> > > all the discussions that preceded
the publication of this draft.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2.3 The issue of legacy resources
is far too complex to be<br>
> > realistically<br>
> > > considered within the scope of
the proposed policy. The goal<br>
> of this<br>
> > > policy is to make sure AFRINIC
can receive resources from other<br>
> > RIRs and<br>
> > > the loss of legacy status is
necessary to ensure<br>
> reciprocity. However,<br>
> > > if there is some perceived
unfairness when it comes to the<br>
> transfer of<br>
> > > legacy resources, a separate
policy ought to be introduced<br>
> > following the<br>
> > > Resource Transfer policy. There
will be the right time and place<br>
> > to have<br>
> > > a discussion on legacy with all
its nuances. As of now, the main<br>
> > > priority for the region is to
have a resource transfer<br>
> policy that is<br>
> > > reciprocal with other RIRs.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > As for your note that this
proposal is not actually<br>
> reciprocal with<br>
> > > other RIRs – it is factually
incorrect. The staff confirmed<br>
> that the<br>
> > > DRAFT-02 and DRAFT-03 are not
compatible with ARIN, and this is<br>
> > > precisely the reason DRAFT-04 was
introduced. And before you say<br>
> > that it<br>
> > > was too hasty and it needed more
discussion – it really doesn’t.<br>
> > > DRAFT-04 just removed the section
on the sending RIR being bound<br>
> > by the<br>
> > > policies of the receiving RIR
that made the policy<br>
> incompatible with<br>
> > > ARIN as per staff assessment.
Thus, with all the edits<br>
> considered the<br>
> > > DRAFT-04 of the Resource Transfer
Policy should be<br>
> functional and<br>
> > fully<br>
> > > compatible with other RIRs.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Considering the above, I believe
this appeal lacks the necessary<br>
> > grounds<br>
> > > to call for the non-declaration
of concensus. <br>
> > ><br>
> > > Best, <br>
> > ><br>
> > > Ekaterina Kalugina <br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, 19:17 Noah
<<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a><br>
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> <mailto:<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>>>>><br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, 15:59
Gregoire EHOUMI via RPD,<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>>>>
wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hello,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > As per appeal process,
see below a copy of my email<br>
> to appeal<br>
> > > committee. <br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hi Greg<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Pleased to fully support
this appeal against the cochairs<br>
> > > declaration of rough
consensus and consensus on a<br>
> proposal that is<br>
> > > had several unresolved valid
objections. <br>
> > ><br>
> > > The cochairs erred bigly and
its absurd to see the PDP<br>
> process<br>
> > > ignored at every step by
those who must ensure that they<br>
> follow it<br>
> > > while acting fairly without
being subjective like we<br>
> have seen<br>
> > recently.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Cheers<br>
> > > Noah<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >
_______________________________________________<br>
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