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    <p>I totally agree with Jordi.</p>
    <p>People should remember that AFRINIC is the youngest registry and
      our everything (Bylaws, rules, structures - etc) is based on the
      first three Registries - that is RIPE, ARIN and APNIC, literally
      taking the best of each of these registries. People should also
      take into account the work Jordi has done in all of these
      registries regarding policy proposals both present and past
      (including AFRINIC). I believe he has a level of experience second
      to none.</p>
    <p>Enough.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020/10/09 14:13, JORDI PALET
      MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">Let’s be logic and rational: I also mention the
            AFRINIC case as well!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <ol style="margin-top:0cm" type="1" start="1">
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">FACT 1: We have a sentence that requires a
              stable version 1 week before the meeting. Nothing in the
              remaining text changes that. So, the PDP position is still
              based on that sentence.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">FACT 2: Previous co-chairs allowed *<b>in the
                meeting, during the proposal presentation*</b> editorial
              adjustments (rewording, grammar, typos), *<b>only</b>* if
              those adjustments didn’t change the proposal
              interpretation. I’ve been several times, we got proposals
              that had changes much smaller than the actual ones, and
              they needed to wait for a new version and a new meeting 6
              months afterwards.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">FACT 3: If *<b>after</b>* the proposal is
              presented, we allow changes “to declare consensus”, is not
              that the same as when we have a new version after a
              meeting and the proposal need to wait for a new meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">FACT 4: If we allow 3 above, then *<b>all the
                proposals</b>* should have the same chances of allowing
              adjustments, otherwise we are having a different treatment
              among different proposals and this is against the full
              purpose of the PDP.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">FACT 5: I’m convinced that the chairs acted
              in good faith, but that doesn’t excuse errors in the
              interpretation of the PDP, including the lack of a formal
              stable version available during all the last call.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">FACT 6: Anyone in disagreement of the
              yesterday chairs decision has 2 weeks to appeal the
              decision. There is no discussion on that. The 2 weeks
              timing re-starts after *<b>every</b>* chairs decision. The
              appeal could have been submitted in September, but it can
              be submitted also now, because the last-call discussion
              proved that there is no continued consensus (which is the
              meaning of the last-call).<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">FACT 7: The board can *<b>only</b>* ratify a
              proposal if the PDP has been followed. If the board has
              any doubts on any nit on the process, they can return the
              proposal to the PDWG for continuing the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">FACT 8: Instead of making a mistake and
              having *<b>all this discussion</b>*, in case of doubt, we
              should follow the interpretation done during many years,
              because it is the actual practice, and ask the board to
              call for a new meeting in 2-3 months. I’m convinced that
              it can be much more efficient and not create troubles.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">I think the chairs should take a decision if
            they still believe that they did all right (remembering that
            a stable version was not available during all the last
            call), or if it better to extend or cancel the last call and
            ask the board for a focused new meeting just to resolve this
            proposal (it can be for others as well, I will not object to
            that, or even one each month from now on). Otherwise, anyone
            from the community can go for an appeal and/or the board
            should make sure if the process has been followed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">I’m not going to reply anymore to this, it is
            starting to be useless noise and not helping anyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El 9/10/20
              13:39, "Ekaterina Kalugina" <<a
                href="mailto:kay.k.prof@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">kay.k.prof@gmail.com</a>>
              escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dear
            community,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">It has
                been really disconcerting reading the last night's
                discussion. The amount of personal attacks and passive
                aggressive statements is making the discussion
                completely futile. The road of pointing fingers leads
                nowhere. So let us please stop this and focus on the
                facts.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">And the
                facts are that there seems to be a single section of the
                CPM that is causing most of the controversy. Namely is
                it the section 3.4.3 on the Last Call. From what I can
                see one camp is arguing that no changes can be made
                during the last call. While the other camp is arguing
                that it is not forbidden.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">This is
                the problem with language - it always leaves room for
                interpretation. Therefore, different people reading this
                section would interpret it differently. <o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">But the
                fact is that NO violations took place. Yes, it is true
                that the section does not explicitly talk about making
                changes during the last call. However, it does not
                prohibit us from doing so.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"> As for
                Jordi's argument that this is not how it's interpreted
                in the other RIRs - it is irrelevant. The only thing
                that matters right now is how we can best interpret the
                CPM for the benefit of the AFRINIC community. <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Some of
                you with different understanding of the CPM may
                disagree. And it's okay. It seems like the way things
                are now, achieving any form of agreement is impossible.
                The only thing that is the possible is to follow the CPM
                in the way that benefits the community. And it has been
                clearly stated many times that having a resource
                transfer policy as soon as possible IS for the benefit
                of the community. It is also in the benefit of the
                community that such policy shall be fully compatible
                with other RIRs. Therefore, it is for the benefit of the
                community and the region that the necessary changes are
                made during the last call.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">And again
                for those in the back, the CPM does NOT prohibit changes
                during the last call. Therefore, technically speaking no
                violations have occurred. <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Finally, I
                would like to point out that the CPM is there to SERVE
                the best interests community. It really pains me to see
                how many of you put the wording of the rules above the
                interests of the people these rules are  meant to
                represent. <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">The fact
                is that many will suffer if this policy is not passed in
                a timely manner. And i firmly believe that it is our
                duty to prevent this from happening in any way we can. <o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Best, <o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Ekaterina <o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">   <o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On Fri, 9
              Oct 2020, 11:07 lucilla fornaro <<a
                href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dear
                        Mirriam, <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Is
                        this a competition on who joined the community
                        first? <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I
                        keep reading insults and arguments that NOTHING
                        have to do with this policy and the end of the
                        last call. In an open and inclusive community
                        like Afrinic it is normal to have newbies. Most
                        of the people here have professional experience
                        in some related fields, and their contribution
                        should be welcomed and appreciated, that's how a
                        community grows. <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Regarding
                        the more serious matter, Co-chairs followed the
                        procedure performing their administrative
                        function within the scope of the CPM, and those
                        who disagree with it did not offer a solution to
                        get the community out of this standoff.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">In
                        my opinion, when situations like this happen,
                        the only way is to follow the procedure and
                        direction of co-chairs. <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Lucilla<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Il
                  giorno ven 9 ott 2020 alle ore 06:03 Mirriam via RPD
                  <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> ha
                  scritto:<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC
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                <div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hi
                            Pascal,<br>
                            <br>
                            Long time since Kampala last year.<br>
                            <br>
                            Just to add that we have always had newbies
                            who join the rpd list and become part of the
                            pdwg , learn and contribute  to discussions
                            and I was one of them since back in 2015.<br>
                            <br>
                            We have also had newbies like Hilario who
                            appears, contributes like the world is
                            ending and then disappear from the face of
                            rpd. <br>
                            <br>
                            We have also had newbies who behave like
                            paid up mercenaries. But we welcome newbies
                            of course and some of us are learning and
                            contributing one day at a time.<br>
                            <br>
                            I think what others are saying is that,
                            newbies must also take time and learn rather
                            than jumping to conclusion.<br>
                            <br>
                            I am a woman and I have never been
                            intimidated by anyone here or even during my
                            first ever AIS meeting in Kampala, I was
                            happy to meet people, learn and socialize
                            with all and believe me I learned a lot from
                            seniors that today I am able to contribute
                            my 2 cents once in a while.<br>
                            <br>
                            Best regards,<br>
                            Mirriam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div
id="m_9207068843885255435gmail-m_5314239276994969537yahoo_quoted_2327833861">
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue";color:#26282A">On Thursday,
                            October 8, 2020, 11:17:37 PM GMT+3, Paschal
                            Ochang <<a
                              href="mailto:pascosoft@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">pascosoft@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <div
                          id="m_9207068843885255435gmail-m_5314239276994969537yiv7517605153">
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                Neue";color:#26282A">I don't think
                                it will be right to make some derogatory
                                remarks with respect to participant's
                                timeline of entry into the discussions.
                                Rather, we should look at the content of
                                discussions and contributions which in
                                this case is very positive. We as a
                                community encourage active participation
                                to bring the best out of Policy
                                development outcomes. A few years ago
                                this platform wasn't that active but the
                                amount of recent comments and
                                participation shows that there is a move
                                in the positive direction.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                  Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                  Neue";color:#26282A">The so
                                  called newbies have been giving
                                  intelligent contributions therefore
                                  telling them to go and read committees
                                  archives does not necessarily dictate
                                  that they are not well schooled or
                                  knowledgeable to engage in the PDP
                                  process. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                  Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                    Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                    Neue";color:#26282A">Thursday,
                                    October 8, 2020, Arnaud AMELINA <<a
                                      href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>>
                                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                <div
id="m_9207068843885255435gmail-m_5314239276994969537yiv7517605153yqt55468">
                                  <blockquote
                                    style="border:none;border-left:solid
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                                    6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                          Neue";color:#26282A">+1.
                                          Let not waste  our valuable
                                          time.  No need to also try to
                                          understand why these people
                                          are so afraid of appeal. 
                                           These newbies should read
                                          carefully the PDP and consult
                                          the appeal committee's
                                          archives to educate
                                          themselves  <a
href="https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee/appeal-2018-01-02#details"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://afrinic.net/policy/
appeal-committee/appeal-2018- 01-02#details</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                            Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                            Neue";color:#26282A">Thanks <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                            Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                            Neue";color:#26282A">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                            Neue";color:#26282A">Arnaud <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                        style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                        Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                            Neue";color:#26282A">Le
                                            jeu. 8 oct. 2020 à 14:04,
                                            Fernando Frediani <<a
                                              href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>>
                                            a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <blockquote
                                        style="border:none;border-left:solid
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                                        <div>
                                          <p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                              Neue";color:#26282A">Gaby
                                              please read the PDP
                                              correctly and do not
                                              confuse people.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                              Neue";color:#26282A">The
                                              section 3.5.1 of the CPM
                                              says "disagrees with the
                                              actions taken by the
                                              Chair(s)" not just with
                                              declarations made during
                                              the PPM. The Chairs could
                                              have changed their
                                              decision meanwhile but
                                              unfortunately they haven't
                                              done. They have just
                                              decided to keep it and it
                                              is "a decision" which by
                                              the CPM bound to appeal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          <p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                              Neue";color:#26282A">Fernando<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                Neue";color:#26282A">On
                                                08/10/2020 10:49, Gaby
                                                Giner wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <blockquote
                                            style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                  Neue";color:#26282A">Dear
                                                  community, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                    Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A">I
                                                      agree with Lucilla
                                                      but only wish to
                                                      add 1 point.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A">I
                                                      think everyone has
                                                      overlooked one
                                                      huge matter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A">It
                                                      is true that by
                                                      section 3.5(1) of
                                                      the CPM “A person
                                                      who disagrees with
                                                      the actions taken
                                                      by the Chair(s)
                                                      shall discuss the
                                                      matter with the
                                                      PDWG Chair(s) or
                                                      with the PDWG”. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A">However,
                                                      I wish to remind
                                                      everyone that by
                                                      section 3.5(2) of
                                                      the CPM, “The
                                                      appeal must be
                                                      submitted within
                                                      two weeks of the
                                                      public knowledge
                                                      of the decision”. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A">Applying
                                                      this into the
                                                      current facts, the
                                                      Chair has publicly
                                                      announced its
                                                      decision on 17th
                                                      September 2020
                                                      through the online
                                                      PPM, whereas, the
disagreement/appeal is only made on 2nd October 2020 onward, which is
                                                      factually beyond
                                                      the 14 days period
                                                      to appeal. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A">Therefore,
                                                      the
                                                      disagreements/appeal
                                                      made in this email
                                                      thread/mailing
                                                      list must be
                                                      deemed invalid and
                                                      be disregarded.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                      Neue";color:#26282A">Gaby<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
                                                    Neue";color:#26282A">On
                                                    Thu, Oct 8, 2020,
                                                    9:05 PM lucilla
                                                    fornaro, <<a
                                                      href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.
                                                      com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A">Dear Sami, dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A">Most of the arguments supporting the policy
                                                          were not mere
                                                          "opinions". <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A">A quick reminder, the policy reached a rough
                                                          consensus
                                                          during the PPM
                                                          and went to
                                                          the last call
                                                          for some
                                                          editorial
                                                          changes. The
                                                          authors, Taiwo
                                                          and Anthony,
                                                          proved to be
                                                          remarkably
                                                          active to
                                                          manage minor
                                                          issues and
                                                          solicitudes
                                                          from the
                                                          community. The
                                                          resource
                                                          transfer
                                                          policy aims to
                                                          build a stable
                                                          and efficient
                                                          resources
                                                          management
                                                          system for the
                                                          Afrinic
                                                          service
                                                          region.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A">The overall discussion has been full of
                                                          controversies
                                                          undermining
                                                          the work of
                                                          the co-chairs,
                                                          an unfair
                                                          behavior in my
                                                          opinion. 
                                                          Also, the
                                                          arguments
                                                          against the
                                                          policy have
                                                          been strongly
                                                          taken apart. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A">We have been debating this policy for weeks,
                                                          it is now time
                                                          to move it to
                                                          the board for
                                                          ratification. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A">regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
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                                                        <p
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style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A">Lucilla <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A">Il giorno gio 8 ott 2020 alle ore 21:09 Sami
                                                        Ait Ali Oulahcen
                                                        via RPD <<a
                                                          href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> ha
                                                        scritto:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
Neue";color:#26282A">Hi,<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        I can't see how
                                                        the "Resource
                                                        Transfer Policy"
                                                        could have
                                                        reached
                                                        consensus.<br>
                                                        I think the
                                                        co-chairs'
                                                        prerogative is
                                                        to declare
                                                        consensus on
                                                        policies, <br>
                                                        not general
                                                        opinions. And
                                                        "we need an
                                                        inter-RIR
                                                        transfer policy"
                                                        is a <br>
                                                        general opinion,
                                                        not a policy.<br>
                                                        The policy in
                                                        question still
                                                        had objections
                                                        (non-editorial)
                                                        before last <br>
                                                        call. And it
                                                        received
                                                        significant
                                                        changes during
                                                        the last call
                                                        period <br>
                                                        (it is not what
                                                        last call is
                                                        meant for).<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Not that I have
                                                        any interest in
                                                        the policy
                                                        itself being
                                                        ratified or not.
                                                        <br>
                                                        It shouldn't be
                                                        done this way.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Just my 2c.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Regards,<br>
                                                        Sami<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        On 10/8/20 12:30
                                                        AM, Moses Serugo
                                                        wrote:<br>
                                                        > Hello PDWG
                                                        members,<br>
                                                        > <br>
                                                        > Following
                                                        the last online
                                                        PPM held on
                                                        16^th -17^th
                                                        September 2020.
                                                        Last <br>
                                                        > call was
                                                        announced on
                                                        21^st September
                                                        2020 for the
                                                        following policy
                                                        <br>
                                                        > proposals.<br>
                                                        > <br>
                                                        >   * Board
                                                        Prerogatives on
                                                        the PDP<br>
                                                        >   *
                                                        Resource
                                                        Transfer Policy<br>
                                                        > <br>
                                                        > This is to
                                                        further announce
                                                        that the  last
                                                        call period for
                                                        the above <br>
                                                        > proposals
                                                        has ended, based
                                                        on feedback
                                                        received from
                                                        the community
                                                        and <br>
                                                        > the
                                                        editorial
                                                        changes made by
                                                        authors to
                                                        address
                                                        community
                                                        concerns, the <br>
                                                        > consensus
                                                        decision from
                                                        AFRINIC32 is
                                                        still
                                                        maintained.<br>
                                                        > <br>
                                                        > Co-Chairs
                                                        will now send a
                                                        report to the
                                                        Board
                                                        recommending
                                                        ratification <br>
                                                        > of the two
                                                        above proposals
                                                        in line with CPM
                                                        3.0.<br>
                                                        > <br>
                                                        > Regards,<br>
                                                        > <br>
                                                        > Co-Chairs<br>
                                                        > <br>
                                                        > <br>
                                                        >
                                                        ______________________________
_________________<br>
                                                        > RPD mailing
                                                        list<br>
                                                        > <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
                                                        > <a
                                                          href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/
                                                          mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
                                                        > <br>
                                                        <br>
______________________________ _________________<br>
                                                        RPD mailing list<br>
                                                        <a
                                                          href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/
                                                          mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    _________________<br>
                                                    RPD mailing list<br>
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                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.afrinic.net/
mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                <br>
                                                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                            <pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="color:#26282A">______________________________ _________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                                            <pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="color:#26282A">RPD mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                                            <pre style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="color:#26282A"><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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                                            _________________<br>
                                            RPD mailing list<br>
                                            <a
                                              href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
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                                              target="_blank"
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                                <br>
                                -- <br>
                                Kind regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica
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