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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Let’s be logic and rational: I also mention the AFRINIC case as well!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>FACT 1: We have a sentence that requires a stable version 1 week before the meeting. Nothing in the remaining text changes that. So, the PDP position is still based on that sentence.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>FACT 2: Previous co-chairs allowed *<b>in the meeting, during the proposal presentation*</b> editorial adjustments (rewording, grammar, typos), *<b>only</b>* if those adjustments didn’t change the proposal interpretation. I’ve been several times, we got proposals that had changes much smaller than the actual ones, and they needed to wait for a new version and a new meeting 6 months afterwards.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>FACT 3: If *<b>after</b>* the proposal is presented, we allow changes “to declare consensus”, is not that the same as when we have a new version after a meeting and the proposal need to wait for a new meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>FACT 4: If we allow 3 above, then *<b>all the proposals</b>* should have the same chances of allowing adjustments, otherwise we are having a different treatment among different proposals and this is against the full purpose of the PDP.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>FACT 5: I’m convinced that the chairs acted in good faith, but that doesn’t excuse errors in the interpretation of the PDP, including the lack of a formal stable version available during all the last call.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>FACT 6: Anyone in disagreement of the yesterday chairs decision has 2 weeks to appeal the decision. There is no discussion on that. The 2 weeks timing re-starts after *<b>every</b>* chairs decision. The appeal could have been submitted in September, but it can be submitted also now, because the last-call discussion proved that there is no continued consensus (which is the meaning of the last-call).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>FACT 7: The board can *<b>only</b>* ratify a proposal if the PDP has been followed. If the board has any doubts on any nit on the process, they can return the proposal to the PDWG for continuing the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>FACT 8: Instead of making a mistake and having *<b>all this discussion</b>*, in case of doubt, we should follow the interpretation done during many years, because it is the actual practice, and ask the board to call for a new meeting in 2-3 months. I’m convinced that it can be much more efficient and not create troubles.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think the chairs should take a decision if they still believe that they did all right (remembering that a stable version was not available during all the last call), or if it better to extend or cancel the last call and ask the board for a focused new meeting just to resolve this proposal (it can be for others as well, I will not object to that, or even one each month from now on). Otherwise, anyone from the community can go for an appeal and/or the board should make sure if the process has been followed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’m not going to reply anymore to this, it is starting to be useless noise and not helping anyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 9/10/20 13:39, "Ekaterina Kalugina" <<a href="mailto:kay.k.prof@gmail.com">kay.k.prof@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Dear community,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>It has been really disconcerting reading the last night's discussion. The amount of personal attacks and passive aggressive statements is making the discussion completely futile. The road of pointing fingers leads nowhere. So let us please stop this and focus on the facts.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>And the facts are that there seems to be a single section of the CPM that is causing most of the controversy. Namely is it the section 3.4.3 on the Last Call. From what I can see one camp is arguing that no changes can be made during the last call. While the other camp is arguing that it is not forbidden.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>This is the problem with language - it always leaves room for interpretation. Therefore, different people reading this section would interpret it differently. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>But the fact is that NO violations took place. Yes, it is true that the section does not explicitly talk about making changes during the last call. However, it does not prohibit us from doing so.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> As for Jordi's argument that this is not how it's interpreted in the other RIRs - it is irrelevant. The only thing that matters right now is how we can best interpret the CPM for the benefit of the AFRINIC community. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Some of you with different understanding of the CPM may disagree. And it's okay. It seems like the way things are now, achieving any form of agreement is impossible. The only thing that is the possible is to follow the CPM in the way that benefits the community. And it has been clearly stated many times that having a resource transfer policy as soon as possible IS for the benefit of the community. It is also in the benefit of the community that such policy shall be fully compatible with other RIRs. Therefore, it is for the benefit of the community and the region that the necessary changes are made during the last call.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>And again for those in the back, the CPM does NOT prohibit changes during the last call. Therefore, technically speaking no violations have occurred. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Finally, I would like to point out that the CPM is there to SERVE the best interests community. It really pains me to see how many of you put the wording of the rules above the interests of the people these rules are meant to represent. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>The fact is that many will suffer if this policy is not passed in a timely manner. And i firmly believe that it is our duty to prevent this from happening in any way we can. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Best, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Ekaterina <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Fri, 9 Oct 2020, 11:07 lucilla fornaro <<a href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Dear Mirriam, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Is this a competition on who joined the community first? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I keep reading insults and arguments that NOTHING have to do with this policy and the end of the last call. In an open and inclusive community like Afrinic it is normal to have newbies. Most of the people here have professional experience in some related fields, and their contribution should be welcomed and appreciated, that's how a community grows. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Regarding the more serious matter, Co-chairs followed the procedure performing their administrative function within the scope of the CPM, and those who disagree with it did not offer a solution to get the community out of this standoff.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>In my opinion, when situations like this happen, the only way is to follow the procedure and direction of co-chairs. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Lucilla<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Il giorno ven 9 ott 2020 alle ore 06:03 Mirriam via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Hi Pascal,<br><br>Long time since Kampala last year.<br><br>Just to add that we have always had newbies who join the rpd list and become part of the pdwg , learn and contribute to discussions and I was one of them since back in 2015.<br><br>We have also had newbies like Hilario who appears, contributes like the world is ending and then disappear from the face of rpd. <br><br>We have also had newbies who behave like paid up mercenaries. But we welcome newbies of course and some of us are learning and contributing one day at a time.<br><br>I think what others are saying is that, newbies must also take time and learn rather than jumping to conclusion.<br><br>I am a woman and I have never been intimidated by anyone here or even during my first ever AIS meeting in Kampala, I was happy to meet people, learn and socialize with all and believe me I learned a lot from seniors that today I am able to contribute my 2 cents once in a while.<br><br>Best regards,<br>Mirriam<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_9207068843885255435gmail-m_5314239276994969537yahoo_quoted_2327833861"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 11:17:37 PM GMT+3, Paschal Ochang <<a href="mailto:pascosoft@gmail.com" target="_blank">pascosoft@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="m_9207068843885255435gmail-m_5314239276994969537yiv7517605153"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I don't think it will be right to make some derogatory remarks with respect to participant's timeline of entry into the discussions. Rather, we should look at the content of discussions and contributions which in this case is very positive. We as a community encourage active participation to bring the best out of Policy development outcomes. A few years ago this platform wasn't that active but the amount of recent comments and participation shows that there is a move in the positive direction.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>The so called newbies have been giving intelligent contributions therefore telling them to go and read committees archives does not necessarily dictate that they are not well schooled or knowledgeable to engage in the PDP process. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Thursday, October 8, 2020, Arnaud AMELINA <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="m_9207068843885255435gmail-m_5314239276994969537yiv7517605153yqt55468"><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>+1. Let not waste our valuable time. No need to also try to understand why these people are so afraid of appeal. These newbies should read carefully the PDP and consult the appeal committee's archives to educate themselves <a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/appeal-committee/appeal-2018-01-02#details" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/policy/ appeal-committee/appeal-2018- 01-02#details</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Thanks <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Arnaud <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Le jeu. 8 oct. 2020 à 14:04, Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Gaby please read the PDP correctly and do not confuse people.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>The section 3.5.1 of the CPM says "disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s)" not just with declarations made during the PPM. The Chairs could have changed their decision meanwhile but unfortunately they haven't done. They have just decided to keep it and it is "a decision" which by the CPM bound to appeal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Fernando<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>On 08/10/2020 10:49, Gaby Giner wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Dear community, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I agree with Lucilla but only wish to add 1 point.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I think everyone has overlooked one huge matter.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>It is true that by section 3.5(1) of the CPM “A person who disagrees with the actions taken by the Chair(s) shall discuss the matter with the PDWG Chair(s) or with the PDWG”. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>However, I wish to remind everyone that by section 3.5(2) of the CPM, “The appeal must be submitted within two weeks of the public knowledge of the decision”. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Applying this into the current facts, the Chair has publicly announced its decision on 17th September 2020 through the online PPM, whereas, the disagreement/appeal is only made on 2nd October 2020 onward, which is factually beyond the 14 days period to appeal. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Therefore, the disagreements/appeal made in this email thread/mailing list must be deemed invalid and be disregarded.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Gaby<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 9:05 PM lucilla fornaro, <<a href="mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail.com" target="_blank">lucillafornarosawamoto@gmail. com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Dear Sami, dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Most of the arguments supporting the policy were not mere "opinions". <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>A quick reminder, the policy reached a rough consensus during the PPM and went to the last call for some editorial changes. The authors, Taiwo and Anthony, proved to be remarkably active to manage minor issues and solicitudes from the community. The resource transfer policy aims to build a stable and efficient resources management system for the Afrinic service region.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>The overall discussion has been full of controversies undermining the work of the co-chairs, an unfair behavior in my opinion. Also, the arguments against the policy have been strongly taken apart. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>We have been debating this policy for weeks, it is now time to move it to the board for ratification. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Lucilla <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Il giorno gio 8 ott 2020 alle ore 21:09 Sami Ait Ali Oulahcen via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Hi,<br><br>I can't see how the "Resource Transfer Policy" could have reached consensus.<br>I think the co-chairs' prerogative is to declare consensus on policies, <br>not general opinions. And "we need an inter-RIR transfer policy" is a <br>general opinion, not a policy.<br>The policy in question still had objections (non-editorial) before last <br>call. And it received significant changes during the last call period <br>(it is not what last call is meant for).<br><br>Not that I have any interest in the policy itself being ratified or not. <br>It shouldn't be done this way.<br><br>Just my 2c.<br><br>Regards,<br>Sami<br><br>On 10/8/20 12:30 AM, Moses Serugo wrote:<br>> Hello PDWG members,<br>> <br>> Following the last online PPM held on 16^th -17^th September 2020. Last <br>> call was announced on 21^st September 2020 for the following policy <br>> proposals.<br>> <br>> * Board Prerogatives on the PDP<br>> * Resource Transfer Policy<br>> <br>> This is to further announce that the last call period for the above <br>> proposals has ended, based on feedback received from the community and <br>> the editorial changes made by authors to address community concerns, the <br>> consensus decision from AFRINIC32 is still maintained.<br>> <br>> Co-Chairs will now send a report to the Board recommending ratification <br>> of the two above proposals in line with CPM 3.0.<br>> <br>> Regards,<br>> <br>> Co-Chairs<br>> <br>> <br>> ______________________________ _________________<br>> RPD mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/ mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>> <br><br>______________________________ _________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/ mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>______________________________ _________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/ mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='color:#26282A'>______________________________ _________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='color:#26282A'>RPD mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='color:#26282A'><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='color:#26282A'><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/ mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>______________________________ _________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/ mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'><br><br>-- <br>Kind regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Paschal.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_9207068843885255435gmail-m_5314239276994969537yqt00556"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list RPD@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd <o:p></o:p></p></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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